IAFDOF

Then why doesn’t skywest have a flow?

VoiceOfReason

So, my dues are going towards paying to drop ship lanyards to all 1,900+ of us? You couldn't just have a bowl in the base where we pick one up? I agree with Mesabah...our MEC reps need to update their apps with SWA, Alaska, and Frontier. I'll even write you guys a letter if that helps.

Avroman

They do, with Southwest.... I keed I keed, sort of. Seems that they have more of theirs going there than we have going to Delta.

Happyflyer

Strangest part about the whole thing is in most cases.
9E pilot position>Delta non-pilot position in its own right.
Delta creates a Propel program to encourage employees who have not already elected to propel themselves.

I.e. "You are low motivated, but we overlook that and motivate you" O, and one of our core values is perseverance.

Before anyone says flight training cost, I'd argue getting a bachelors degree to be a Delta employee non-pilot is more expensive than flight training without degree to be a 9E pilot.

Mesabah

I don't think people understand Delta, if Delta themselves didn't come up with it, it's not going to happen. The 9E MEC might want to try Inception if they want a flow.

Happyflyer

Union will never say what Deta has come up with, that just didn't include them.
If Delta said we'll flow everyone hired after BK, when we bought the company and controlled it I doubt the MEC would say such.
One common thing I think about flow is being hired when company owned.

ninerdriver

EtD says what now?

Boats and Hos

We might just get ComAired or Expressjetted or Compassed or Gojetted. The D has a way of being nasty when the step children start misbehaving.

I’m torn again about this but will comply with Alpa’s directive. I was thinking if we ALL wore our hats but that would be more difficult. The lanyards work believe it or not as it show’s solidarity for a specific purpose.

The saddess part is the continued false promises and the BBQ Q&As. In addition, the survey. They seem to just be ignoring us and our pleas but, food, hats and mugs will appease us. Most come here for the chance to play for the Yankees. The Oakland A’s or L.A. Dodgers are good teams too so instead of waiting for the pinstripes, off they will go. This is the part that makes no sense. You’d think like the Yankees they’d have a good farm team to draw from but they created another farm team while we sit thinking we have a chance. Keep swinging that bat and getting on base and MAYBE you’ll be in pinstripes someday. It gets depressing after awhile. I wonder how long Jeter would have stayed. Sorry for the baseball analogy but it’s the closest thing I know.

What I see is a new company (name) but the same old regional mentality. All the wholly owned AA companies even adapted. Not saying it’s better but again, the Yankee thing. Do your time and you will get pinstripes. Here, you have to prove your worth all over again even though after years of IROPS, PA’s, NPS scores, Airport reserve and slogging it out in D colored jets, with D passengers, you’re just not good enough or prove it, which only few apparently can. Funny thing is if you don’t make it through you go right back to flying the D brand. It’s a poor message.

The D has to choose to adapt in the new world we are told we live in. Pilot’s never really inner acted with passengers but we do now. So we sell the brand we then should be included in the brand. Otherwise just make everything Skywest. If they gave us a flow or staple you can bet the Sky people would be upset and they would have the right to be.

In closing, if Piedmont, Envoy and PSA can have a flow, that works and doesn’t seem to have any drama, why can’t we, Republic and Skywest???

Varsity

I can see Endeavor with flow to Delta.. Where would Republic and Skywest flow to?

VoiceOfReason

Hate to state the obviously, but the blessing & curse of being a wholly owned subsidiary. Stay the course, guys, we'll get there - someday!