New-hires Beware!
11-09-2019, 06:40 AM
#11
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 93
Originally Posted by FlyWhite
Top paid FOs starving..? Try going back to 2008, new FOs got 18k for the year.
2 year upgrade. Again I'd take that. Better than 6.5 years of reserve 7 to 8 year upgrade.
Most of you haven't even seen the tides of change in the business but sure love to complain. #millenials
2 year upgrade. Again I'd take that. Better than 6.5 years of reserve 7 to 8 year upgrade.
Most of you haven't even seen the tides of change in the business but sure love to complain. #millenials
11-09-2019, 06:43 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 2,767
Originally Posted by StandardBrief
I hate the Boomer sentiment that millenials are the problem. It's your own fault for agreeing to work under the conditions of a job that paid that little money. It's the millenials who decided that investing $100,000 with little to no return on investment that caused the current labor shortage along with the associated rise in wages. I bet you're also upset that these youngsters never had to navigate via the stars as well. Just because you had to suffer doesn't mean that everyone after you has too.
And we all did it because we saw everyone else do it for less. When he and I were making 18k we were complaining the guys in front of us paid for their job.
Pilots are idiots and blame everyone else for the problems they made.
11-09-2019, 07:10 AM
#14
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
Originally Posted by StandardBrief
I hate the Boomer sentiment that millenials are the problem. It's your own fault for agreeing to work under the conditions of a job that paid that little money. It's the millenials who decided that investing $100,000 with little to no return on investment that caused the current labor shortage along with the associated rise in wages. I bet you're also upset that these youngsters never had to navigate via the stars as well. Just because you had to suffer doesn't mean that everyone after you has too.
I never airline flew before for those reasons. One of my friends was excited to work for Silver back in the day for around $15/hr when they were new. His fault for accepting those wages...
Anyone that comes in now that is not Propel probably won’t see the same opportunities as the guys hired in 2014 to early 2017. Change my mind...
11-09-2019, 07:11 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 368
As a Gen Xer, I'm just enjoying the show.
/popcorn
I was in a position to begin flight training to pursue the aviation field when I left the military back in 2004. However, I took a hard look at the economics of the situation and said f that, so I did other things for a decade instead.
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbsBNPddn4o
/popcorn
I was in a position to begin flight training to pursue the aviation field when I left the military back in 2004. However, I took a hard look at the economics of the situation and said f that, so I did other things for a decade instead.
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbsBNPddn4o
11-09-2019, 07:41 AM
#17
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 833
Originally Posted by ChuckMK23
I'll bite! What is it?
11-09-2019, 07:42 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 833
Originally Posted by TOGAwarrior
Thank you and well said.
I never airline flew before for those reasons. One of my friends was excited to work for Silver back in the day for around $15/hr when they were new. His fault for accepting those wages...
Anyone that comes in now that is not Propel probably won’t see the same opportunities as the guys hired in 2014 to early 2017. Change my mind...
I never airline flew before for those reasons. One of my friends was excited to work for Silver back in the day for around $15/hr when they were new. His fault for accepting those wages...
Anyone that comes in now that is not Propel probably won’t see the same opportunities as the guys hired in 2014 to early 2017. Change my mind...
11-09-2019, 09:37 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,077
Originally Posted by BleedsClosed
Over the last 3 classes the company has been awarding new hire FOs 900 during Indoc through Gen Subs. After you begin 900 Systems, you will be notified that after completing 900 LOE, you will immediately be sent 200 differences. This means you have additional tests, additional jeopardy events, a 18 month seatlock on the 200, and your learning all these system backwards.
Naturally none of this told to you during your interview or indoctrination. You will find out after you have been on property for over 2 weeks meaning there is potential ramifications if you resign and go to another airline. It will look like you failed out of training.
I regret coming here already.
Naturally none of this told to you during your interview or indoctrination. You will find out after you have been on property for over 2 weeks meaning there is potential ramifications if you resign and go to another airline. It will look like you failed out of training.
I regret coming here already.
But yes I'm sure it has something to do with movement involving cvg.
11-09-2019, 09:59 AM
#20
On Guard!
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by FlyWhite
Top paid FOs starving..? Try going back to 2008, new FOs got 18k for the year.
2 year upgrade. Again I'd take that. Better than 6.5 years of reserve 7 to 8 year upgrade.
Most of you haven't even seen the tides of change in the business but sure love to complain. #millenials
2 year upgrade. Again I'd take that. Better than 6.5 years of reserve 7 to 8 year upgrade.
Most of you haven't even seen the tides of change in the business but sure love to complain. #millenials
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