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Old 02-05-2020, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by moonraker9 View Post
I have read about the difficulties of DGI, but the other 'flows' are 6-9 years from what I read as well so I think if that is the case I'd rather jump over to a LCC but I'm trying not to get ahead of myself here.

The reasons I am interested are because Endeavor seems to have a good commuter policy in place, slightly higher pay than others and the working relationship between the company and pilots seems to be good as well (just from reading pilot's experiences with crew scheduling etc. on forums, so that might not be saying much) If I'm wrong let me know!

Cool, thanks! I'm always interested in how applicants view our airline. The nice thing about a flow is it is as close to a guarantee as you can get right now. Nothing is guaranteed and the timetables change. Our commuter policy is pretty good. As far as pay, hourly rate is only part of the picture. Soft money is where it's at. Our 401k sucks if that matters to you. For management/labor relations, our new CEO only tells us we get hurt too much and be more efficient. He's kind of like Keyser Soze, you're not sure if he really exists. I don't get the feeling he cares about us like RG or BL. He's a numbers guy that exists to maximize Delta's profits and I don't see him placing much priority on anything else. Base management is generally very good, except LGA. If you're a good employee and not a slacking dirtbag or racist, they'll do anything they can to help you out. Scheduling is the same. They're people that have a job to do. Keep in mind, they're low paid, entry level. Mistakes happen, but be polite and talk with a supervisor and things work out. I've never felt deliberately or maliciously screwed by scheduling, they're generally good.

Endeavor isn't a bad place to work, but other regionals offer competitive packages too. We aren't the clear cut winner any more. That can change rapidly for better or worse. My advice to applicants is minimize commuting as much as possible, fly a lot, learn a lot, upgrade, and move on. Get involved with some extras at work. There are many opportunities both with the company and management. If you can drive to work and live in a place you at least like, it will be life changingly better than commuting to NYC and staying stacked up like cordwood in some crappy crashpad. Let me know if I can help you with anything else.
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Old 02-06-2020, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by moonraker9 View Post
I have read about the difficulties of DGI, but the other 'flows' are 6-9 years from what I read as well so I think if that is the case I'd rather jump over to a LCC but I'm trying not to get ahead of myself here.

The reasons I am interested are because Endeavor seems to have a good commuter policy in place, slightly higher pay than others and the working relationship between the company and pilots seems to be good as well (just from reading pilot's experiences with crew scheduling etc. on forums, so that might not be saying much) If I'm wrong let me know!
I disagree with green on a few things. But mostly just to the degree he says things suck. I've enjoyed my time here very much and made a lot of money. I think this is a good place to be, but it depends entirely on your circumstance. Where are you commuting from? Do you have the 4 year degree? Do you want to work a lot or as little as possible?

I think flow and pay make psa a very appetizing choice, but I still wouldn't go there personally. I can't commute to any of their Junior bases. Our bases are generally very easy to commute to for a lot of people and our commute policy is the best hands down.

He's right that we're definitely not the clear cut winner anymore, but anyone joining class this summer is going to have a vastly different experience than someone a year ago. (Better). And upgrade times are about to come back down


Overall green paints a fair picture of us, though I would say some of our current downsides mirror those at other regionals and don't necessarily disqualify us.

Our CEO does seem to have a.... Bland.... Personality. But he doesn't really seem to run the place. My guess is our upper management teams that have been here forever do the heavy lifting and he's just waiting to get back go Delta.

The good news is we've never been in a stronger negotiating position with the company, so let's hope the NC and use that momentum

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Old 02-06-2020, 04:09 AM
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Cool, thanks! I'm always interested in how applicants view our airline. The nice thing about a flow is it is as close to a guarantee as you can get right now. Nothing is guaranteed and the timetables change. Our commuter policy is pretty good. As far as pay, hourly rate is only part of the picture. Soft money is where it's at. Our 401k sucks if that matters to you. For management/labor relations, our new CEO only tells us we get hurt too much and be more efficient. He's kind of like Keyser Soze, you're not sure if he really exists. I don't get the feeling he cares about us like RG or BL. He's a numbers guy that exists to maximize Delta's profits and I don't see him placing much priority on anything else. Base management is generally very good, except LGA. If you're a good employee and not a slacking dirtbag or racist, they'll do anything they can to help you out. Scheduling is the same. They're people that have a job to do. Keep in mind, they're low paid, entry level. Mistakes happen, but be polite and talk with a supervisor and things work out. I've never felt deliberately or maliciously screwed by scheduling, they're generally good.

Endeavor isn't a bad place to work, but other regionals offer competitive packages too. We aren't the clear cut winner any more. That can change rapidly for better or worse. My advice to applicants is minimize commuting as much as possible, fly a lot, learn a lot, upgrade, and move on. Get involved with some extras at work. There are many opportunities both with the company and management. If you can drive to work and live in a place you at least like, it will be life changingly better than commuting to NYC and staying stacked up like cordwood in some crappy crashpad. Let me know if I can help you with anything else.
I really appreciate the reply and advice! It is definitely hard to make a decision in such a rapidly changing environment, could be a totally different world 4 months from now.
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Old 02-06-2020, 04:12 AM
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I disagree with green on a few things. But mostly just to the degree he says things suck. I've enjoyed my time here very much and made a lot of money. I think this is a good place to be, but it depends entirely on your circumstance. Where are you commuting from? Do you have the 4 year degree? Do you want to work a lot or as little as possible?

I think flow and pay make psa a very appetizing choice, but I still wouldn't go there personally. I can't commute to any of their Junior bases. Our bases are generally very easy to commute to for a lot of people and our commute policy is the best hands down.

He's right that we're definitely not the clear cut winner anymore, but anyone joining class this summer is going to have a vastly different experience than someone a year ago. (Better). And upgrade times are about to come back down


Overall green paints a fair picture of us, though I would say some of our current downsides mirror those at other regionals and don't necessarily disqualify us.

Our CEO does seem to have a.... Bland.... Personality. But he doesn't really seem to run the place. My guess is our upper management teams that have been here forever do the heavy lifting and he's just waiting to get back go Delta.

The good news is we've never been in a stronger negotiating position with the company, so let's hope the NC and use that momentum

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Thanks! I live in FL and have family about 40 mins away from LGA/JFK so that would eliminate the crash pad portion of commuting. I do have a 4 year degree / 1000 hour qualifying RATP cert statement. I'd definitely like to build some time but I realize reserve is a reality which is why I'm asking you guys what to expect but now I see how much of a changing environment it is.
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Originally Posted by moonraker9 View Post
Thanks! I live in FL and have family about 40 mins away from LGA/JFK so that would eliminate the crash pad portion of commuting. I do have a 4 year degree / 1000 hour qualifying RATP cert statement. I'd definitely like to build some time but I realize reserve is a reality which is why I'm asking you guys what to expect but now I see how much of a changing environment it is.
Yep. Commuting to NY out of Jax or mco is pretty easy. But everywhere else you have to do ATL. The more flights the better, that means more jump seats. And yes if you can do NY without a crash pad? Oh man that's a game changer. Good luck wherever you end up

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Originally Posted by moonraker9 View Post
Thanks! I live in FL and have family about 40 mins away from LGA/JFK so that would eliminate the crash pad portion of commuting. I do have a 4 year degree / 1000 hour qualifying RATP cert statement. I'd definitely like to build some time but I realize reserve is a reality which is why I'm asking you guys what to expect but now I see how much of a changing environment it is.
My crystal ball suggests reserves will fly a lot this summer. It's simple math based on our growth in fleet and lack of growth on the seniority list. Things change rapidly in this industry. Timing and luck play a huge role. Don't rack your brain too much about your decision. Make your commute as easy as you can or non-existent if possible. Get in and get out as fast as you can. Don't forget to have fun while you're there too.

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Old 02-28-2020, 07:14 PM
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Following this thread, looking to depart CFIing first of August, and trying to figure out my best option from STL. With TSA dying and too many commuters to Chicago, MSP, DTW and ATL bases seem attractive for commuting. Have a phone interview on Monday.
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Old 02-29-2020, 03:10 AM
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Following this thread, looking to depart CFIing first of August, and trying to figure out my best option from STL. With TSA dying and too many commuters to Chicago, MSP, DTW and ATL bases seem attractive for commuting. Have a phone interview on Monday.
forget about MSP. You wouldn’t want it even if you could hold it, which you can’t. ATL is pretty senior for FOs also. DTW probably could hold out of training or very soon after.

RSV times are on the decline, and upgrade times are as well. Overall, a decent time to come here. Not great, but decent. It is a great company, with a great pilot group. I wouldn’t want to be at any other regional.
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Old 02-29-2020, 03:19 AM
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Following this thread, looking to depart CFIing first of August, and trying to figure out my best option from STL. With TSA dying and too many commuters to Chicago, MSP, DTW and ATL bases seem attractive for commuting. Have a phone interview on Monday.
If I’m not mistaken the new CVG base has service on our metal in and out of STL.. depending on how commutable CVG trips end up that could be an option..
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Old 02-29-2020, 03:33 AM
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If I’m not mistaken the new CVG base has service on our metal in and out of STL.. depending on how commutable CVG trips end up that could be an option..
So far, they're all super early starts and super late finishes. We'll see whether that changes once the base is fully up in April.
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