Rayjay

I’ve done plenty of RST turns when I was MSP based. I know the Mayo Clinic. Not sure why you’re so vile but it’s okay. I’d be too if I couldn’t upgrade this summer hahaha.

I have seen a few LEO job postings, Social Worker Ads, and a few IT jobs. If you have a desire to become a nurse or something similar, there are plenty of opportunities in emergency medicine. The FAA is hiring ASIs.

Living in your parents basement, you probably haven’t been exposed to anything but aviation. There are other jobs out there.

bradthepilot

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as vile. It's just a counter point, with a link to backing data.

You may have visited RST, but I grew up there. I worked at IBM and other tech firms for a couple of decades before leaving for an airline gig, so I've some experience outside the airline world. Several of those roles were technical design and leadership, which provided training and experience in making data-based decisions. If there is some data corroborating the perspective that the medical industry is recession-proof, I've not seen it. Perhaps you could link an article that has evidence to support such a viewpoint?

Rayjay

I’ll offer more prospective. I’d rather be a furloughed medical employee than a airline pilot treading water right now. The majority of medical employees are furloughed because non-essential procedures have been put on hold. Once things begin to open up, people will need to see the dentist, and elective surgeries will resume. Billy the backyard mechanic will have a job and a booming business during a recession. The majority of Americans lack basic mechanical abilities. Having a car is essential, so when Karen’s radiator goes out, Billy will be there to help. Even in desperate times, people will get a pay day loan in order to pay for an emergency car repair. This same concept applies to plumbers, AC repair, construction etc.

Do you think Karen will get a payday loan to purchase an airline ticket for a weekend getaway? Discretionary income for the majority of Americans is now nil to none. Businesses will be cutting costs, meaning limited business travel.

Commercial aviation on a grand scale isn’t “essential”.

Rayjay

I don’t think a vaccine is worthless at all. In fact I think that will be our saving grace. Sorry if I came off as an ***hole. The above posted my personal perspective and opinion. Depending on my level of boredom tomorrow, I’ll try to find some statistical evidence.

bradthepilot

It does seem likely that the airline industry will take a little while to recover. If a furlough happens and reaches my number, I'll simply do tech full time instead of as a part time gig - there are more than just a few IT gigs available if you have the right skillset and some industry experience. It doesn't particularly worry me, as it's something that's out of my control.

Rayjay

Always good to have a backup. Care to give a hypothesis as to why the medical industry isn’t “recession proof”? I’ve heard it has to do largely with for profit hospitals and such. You’d think there would always be a need for trained medical staff. But, what do I know.

Despite my gloomy predictions, I do think EDV will play an important role in Deltas recovery. With the 88/90s, and possibly the 717s going away, shorter legs such as ATL-CLT, ATL-VSP etc will need to be replaced by something similar....such as the -900. All speculation on my end though.

bradthepilot

I'd speculate that it builds up peripheral spending/cost centers in good times just like everything else, and when times get tough something has to give. As an investor, I've seen it in announcements of RIFs but those usually lack any real details. Maybe instead of 150 lab technicians analyzing whatever tests, they can get by with 120. Maybe instead of 25 IT personnel they can get by with 20. In the case of the Mayo Clinic, it's that elective surgeries are out for now. I don't really know, as I've only heard anecdotal bits and pieces from friends and family that are plugged into that industry...and as I like to remind them, the plural of "anecdotes" is not "data".

DeltaCorrectons

Good lord dude you have got to be one depressing MF to be around. Stop with the fear mongering and speculation and let the situation play out before you hit the panic button. It doesn’t look great at the moment but at least make the attempt to act like you love life. Your just spreading fear maybe put the phone down for a little while and go for a walk. Unless you live in NYC then I can understand why your so depressed.

Rayjay

I have to laugh at your optimism and general outlook on life. You’ll be the one of the dozens on the street come October with no savings or plan B. Every airline has stated they will come back smaller. What do you think that means for every labor group? You think the airlines can lose $100 million per day and come out of this okay? You live in a fantasy world full of butterflies and unicorns.

I find it amusing the majority who have been on property for under 2 years are the most optimistic ones. Or just in denial.

msprj2

That’s the beauty of youth there Boomer.