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FlyWhite 06-02-2020 10:08 AM

Still no reply to my question. I guess I'll have to go and tey read the damn contract.

My guess is we will see 10 to 15% downgraded. 10 to 20% furloughed. Hope not but we have to be realistic.

Meow1215 06-02-2020 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3068875)
Looks like at least 30% of the CA's on property will be downgraded. Sigh.

Its amazing how much **** you make up.

Meow1215 06-02-2020 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by FlyWhite (Post 3068977)
Still no reply to my question. I guess I'll have to go and tey read the damn contract.

edvcontractquestions@alpa

Rayjay 06-02-2020 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by FlyWhite (Post 3068977)
Still no reply to my question. I guess I'll have to go and tey read the damn contract.

My guess is we will see 10 to 15% downgraded. 10 to 20% furloughed. Hope not but we have to be realistic.

There is no pay protection for downgrades. That LOA was for alignments 13-02, 14-02, and 14-03. The LOA terminated 12/31/2015.

Expect 30-40% of the CA's to be sent back to the right seat. I've heard we can expect up to 600 furloughs. This is all unconfirmed intel, but by birdie is usually correct. So 300 downgrades, 600 furloughs.

Rayjay 06-02-2020 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 3068985)
Its amazing how much **** you make up.

I haven't been wrong yet.

preflight 06-02-2020 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3068995)
I haven't been wrong yet.

I think 70-80% of Captains will be offered buy-outs and retire early, the rest will be trained for single pilots operations. All FOs will be downgraded to Cabin Staff and luggage handlers.

This is about as accurate as any other prediction....

Rayjay 06-02-2020 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by preflight (Post 3068997)
I think 70-80% of Captains will be offered buy-outs and retire early, the rest will be trained for single pilots operations. All FOs will be downgraded to Cabin Staff and luggage handlers.

This is about as accurate as any other prediction....


You do bring out a interesting point. 9E should get a early out package. Who will take it?

PaloAlto 06-02-2020 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3069002)
You do bring out a interesting point. 9E should get a early out package. Who will take it?

Hopefully all the lifer captains who commute from MEM like you.

Rayjay 06-02-2020 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by PaloAlto (Post 3069005)
Hopefully all the lifer captains who commute from MEM like you.


If the package is good enough I just might. Or continue to enjoy the seniority at the top

HulkaBurger 06-02-2020 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3069008)
If the package is good enough I just might. Or continue to enjoy the seniority at the top

I'm quite certain nothing you say here is the truth. You're not a Pinnacle lifer that is currently a top 400 9E captain. You're not a MEM-ATL commuter. You've never kicked any FO off of "your" flight deck.

You're just another internet rando that's FOS.


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