A220...Gamechanger?
09-15-2020, 09:57 AM
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It’s all about the motors tho
Yes, there are lots of -200 hulls out there but it’s this motors that time out and currently the 200 motors are at a premium. OO has some company that’s been buying them up as they get on the market. So if you can find a pair of motors that are not All burned out let me know....
09-15-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by darkman62
Yes, there are lots of -200 hulls out there but it’s this motors that time out and currently the 200 motors are at a premium. OO has some company that’s been buying them up as they get on the market. So if you can find a pair of motors that are not All burned out let me know....
That was my understanding as well, but did’t know if CF34-3A’s were available. I know the CL650 is still in production and they use a similar engine. But don’t know if it’s SB’d for the 200.
Then again, how much are you really saving by putting new engines on a decades old airframe.
09-15-2020, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by darkman62
Yes, there are lots of -200 hulls out there but it’s this motors that time out and currently the 200 motors are at a premium. OO has some company that’s been buying them up as they get on the market. So if you can find a pair of motors that are not All burned out let me know....
ATR is probably the closest to a factory new 50 seat replacement, but the thought of doing five legs a day in Buffalo winter in those isn’t super comforting, even with the fixes since Roselawn.
09-15-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziggy
Agreed, but at some point 200’s will too expensive to maintain. Which I am inclined to believe is sooner rather that later. As I see it the only viable replacements right now would be ATR 72 and the Q400 Nextgen. But, that would go against DL philosophy of an “all jet fleet”.
09-15-2020, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziggy
Agreed, but at some point 200’s will too expensive to maintain. Which I am inclined to believe is sooner rather that later. As I see it the only viable replacements right now would be ATR 72 and the Q400 Nextgen. But, that would go against DL philosophy of an “all jet fleet”.
09-15-2020, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Can always bring back the -145 too. The XR is a sharp looking plane, and very briefly flew in Connection colors.
ATR is probably the closest to a factory new 50 seat replacement, but the thought of doing five legs a day in Buffalo winter in those isn’t super comforting, even with the fixes since Roselawn.
ATR is probably the closest to a factory new 50 seat replacement, but the thought of doing five legs a day in Buffalo winter in those isn’t super comforting, even with the fixes since Roselawn.
ATR is ok, but underpowered. The Q400 Nextgen with a dual zone cabin, double the SHP, and 80kt TAS difference would be an interesting replacement. Sure the ATR has it beat by around %30 better fuel economy, but still got to be cheaper than a 200.
09-15-2020, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
Needing a replacement assumes Delta will continue operating many of those routes. I bet, especially post-Covid, that we see the legacies permenently leaving many 50-seat cities in the long-term.
absolutely true; question is, would DL be willing to sacrifice market share to cut back. DTW-LAN or even MBS, sure. Kinda surprised DL hasn’t done it sooner.
09-15-2020, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
A220 fuel burn is breathtaking. Lower than a 900 with 30 more folks in the back, and no issues with 3-4 hour legs into the wind with an alternate. 95 total orders split between the -100 and -300..
09-15-2020, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
3-4 hour legs? It should do transcons even in winter (those can be 7 hrs) with an ALT.
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