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Old 04-07-2022, 08:35 AM
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The important number is not how many took the bonus, but how many pay it back and leave anyway. It also doesn't solve the upgradeable FO problem. That well has ran dry.
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Old 04-07-2022, 09:48 AM
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The important number is not how many took the bonus, but how many pay it back and leave anyway. It also doesn't solve the upgradeable FO problem. That well has ran dry.
When you leave, just give the money back and file an amendment to your taxes. Talk to your accountant. You don’t have to pay taxes on money you don’t keep. Before you come back with a rebuttal, talk to your accountant!
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How does this work? Move up 2 years of C5 pay for every year of prior experience? Move up 1 year of C5 pay for every two years of prior experience?

Must be 121 time, I presume?
2 years of experience is one year of longevity.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:17 AM
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When you leave, just give the money back and file an amendment to your taxes. Talk to your accountant. You don’t have to pay taxes on money you don’t keep. Before you come back with a rebuttal, talk to your accountant!
I think you are misinterpreting me. I'm talking about the number of pilots, not the dollar amount. The company is banking on the people that opted in actually staying until their flow date. The point I was trying to make is the percentage of pilots that opted in and will leave anyway for other carriers (paying the money back) is going to be a key metric in the success or failure of the retention program.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
I think you are misinterpreting me. I'm talking about the number of pilots, not the dollar amount. The company is banking on the people that opted in actually staying until their flow date. The point I was trying to make is the percentage of pilots that opted in and will leave anyway for other carriers (paying the money back) is going to be a key metric in the success or failure of the retention program.
This, and the company doesn't seem to recognize that. The metric should be how many actually stay, not how many took the bonus. Look no further than the AA WO's for proof of that.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:26 AM
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Are the numbers out on how many FO’s took it?
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
I think you are misinterpreting me. I'm talking about the number of pilots, not the dollar amount. The company is banking on the people that opted in actually staying until their flow date. The point I was trying to make is the percentage of pilots that opted in and will leave anyway for other carriers (paying the money back) is going to be a key metric in the success or failure of the retention program.
I wasn’t disagreeing with what you were saying I was just adding to it. You’re 100% correct.
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I wasn’t disagreeing with what you were saying I was just adding to it. You’re 100% correct.
Gotcha! Some things get lost in translation on the internets
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The guys who took the money should not feel they are bound to staying here. Keep the money in the bank, when the opportunity comes to leave. Leave without hesitation and file an amendment form for your taxes and let the union know, they are obligated to give that portion back. So you lose nothing and gain everything.
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Old 04-08-2022, 06:16 AM
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https://www.mlive.com/news/2022/04/walmart-just-raised-starting-pay-for-drivers-up-to-110k-a-year.html

Some food for thought.
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