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11-09-2022, 06:59 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by gojo
I only listened to about the first 20 minutes. I got frustrated and turned it off after I learned that the AIP still had open items on it. Sorry not much help
11-09-2022, 07:53 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Oh so they haven’t voted it in yet, I was wondering why we hadn’t gotten an email yet.
11-09-2022, 08:05 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by legend
I believe the hold up is the Company doesn’t want to pay back pay to pilots that have already left the company and our MEC does.. That’s what he said last night. Let’ your reps know what you think. On APC doesn’t count.
11-09-2022, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
Definitely let the reps know not to hold this thing up . I’m all for any pilots that left after 9/30 to get retro pay but not willing to put at risk 1900 Endeavor Pilots on current property not getting retro pay for 20 to 100 pilots that left to bigger and better things
11-09-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by legend
I believe the hold up is the Company doesn’t want to pay back pay to pilots that have already left the company and our MEC does.. That’s what he said last night. Let’ your reps know what you think. On APC doesn’t count.
For reference, your new hires will be making almost as much as we made as topped out 900 captains at Comair back in the day.
Originally Posted by overqualified52
Definitely let the reps know not to hold this thing up . I’m all for any pilots that left after 9/30 to get retro pay but not willing to put at risk 1900 Endeavor Pilots on current property not getting retro pay for 20 to 100 pilots that left to bigger and better things
11-09-2022, 10:31 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
You've got to be kidding me. I really hope this isn't the case. This thing is a gift from Delta management and apparently it pi$sed the mainline boys off so much that it put them over the top on their 99% strike vote. They are talking about this setting a new floor for their negotiations over on the Delta forum. EDV FOs will literally be making more than some Delta newhire 350 FOs. I'm sure management would be happy to let it go down in flames if you guys hesitate or try to make the deal even sweeter if for no other reason than to screw the mainline negotiations over.
For reference, your new hires will be making almost as much as we made as topped out 900 captains at Comair back in the day.
Yeah this guy gets it.
For reference, your new hires will be making almost as much as we made as topped out 900 captains at Comair back in the day.
Yeah this guy gets it.
Yep. They're jeopardizing the whole thing over guys who don't even work here. I've already emailed my rep.
11-09-2022, 01:56 PM
#18
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I got the same jist from Nick. The TA is being held up/slowed because pilots gone should get retro pay for “services rendered!” It’s a load of nonsense. I have almost zero criticism for what our committee has done here but it sounds like they’re trying to rub the back of some flow pilots/buddies. I received a response from a rep today assuring me that this particular issue will not keep ratification from occurring by the end of November. Personally if I was the company I would tell them to take a hike on this matter!
11-09-2022, 08:40 PM
#19
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Back pay
Guys, guys, guys, if you watched OAWTC you would have seen, if they get back pay for the ones that left it’ll be great. But regardless of if that happens or not those on sight WILL have retro pay. Just my opinion but those that voted with their feet helped us get mgmt back to the table. The record high attrition was most definitely a factor. The least we could do is TRY to say thank you to them.
11-09-2022, 08:41 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by FlyDontDrive
I got the same jist from Nick. The TA is being held up/slowed because pilots gone should get retro pay for “services rendered!” It’s a load of nonsense. I have almost zero criticism for what our committee has done here but it sounds like they’re trying to rub the back of some flow pilots/buddies. I received a response from a rep today assuring me that this particular issue will not keep ratification from occurring by the end of November. Personally if I was the company I would tell them to take a hike on this matter!
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