overqualified52

Don’t forget the propels.

Jdub2

just take the flow

TNDeltaFlyboy

they are not getting preferential treatment. If they get hired right now it’s because they are in STEP as well.

three1five

propel pilots have been getting special treatment since the inception of the program.

TransWorld

Isn’t that the intent of the program?

TNDeltaFlyboy

Ok, define what you think their special treatment is?

TransWorld

You can read a lot more details, if you are really interested.

https://www.delta.com/us/en/careers/pilots/propel

If your goal was to just poke at the critter, never mind.

three1five

Here’s one example. In 2022, DL capped the number of pilots they would hire from 9E. Dozens of 9E CAs who held off the street DL CJOs were held back at 9E for many months as DL filled the quota of pilots moving from 9E to DL each month with Propel program pilots, some of them FOs who had not upgraded. This caused the bypassed CJO holders to lose several months of seniority, and at 250 pilots a month these pilots were losing hundreds— I believe several lost 1000+ —seniority numbers, while pilots in the propel program were moved on ahead of them without having to upgrade. (This did not affect flow pilots—just OTS CJO holders.)

All the propel pilots I have met are good people and good pilots, but they are treated differently and receive special advantage from DL. This creates unusual stratifications within an ALPA pilot group.

overqualified52

Yea for sure . Even pilots that stick around for the flow get hosed by propel because most of the propels will get sent to mainline long before flow pilots if it takes the flow pilot 4 to 6 years to flow , thus losing thousands in seniority. Obviously this is the reason for attrition problems . Just like any other quota hiring , it’s not the people but just the unfair practices that pit one group against the other . They can just make it fair and simple. Either make it “Delta for all Endeavor” like both MEC’s are pushing or any pilot that sets foot on an “Endeavor” aircraft to fly it ( of course Delta owns it all anyway , LOL ) has to join the line to flow , regardless if propel or not .

TransWorld

4 to 6 years to flow…used to take 25 years for CA at the regions to get a call from the majors. My how times have changed!