Endeavor Pilots & Aircraft into Delta
05-14-2023, 07:30 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
My opinion is relevant. You have zero guarantee it would be a staple. I’m aware of the staple, but you have no guarantee that will be the final result.
05-14-2023, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Considering they won’t even do some form of early seniority for flows, I don’t see this amounting to much. Also worth noting the agreement expressly indicated a staple, not a “merge”.
05-14-2023, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
It’s for unity purposes, but I’d appreciate it if DALPA didn’t encourage the idea of 1,xxx 9e pilots leapfrogging me on the seniority list.
What a f*cking joke.
What a f*cking joke.
05-14-2023, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
you got me but I didn’t see where it said “staple” anywhere.
05-14-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
the DALPA email expressly says “not ahead of any delta pilot”. And yes a staple can happen if both MECs concur, which they have.
05-14-2023, 01:06 PM
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Wouldn't a merged list potentially mean a 1st year DL pilot fresh over from another regional fall behind a 4 year Endeavor pilot who didn't yet flow? I also remember the US-HP merger some around 2005 and the two pilot groups (who were very adversarial to each other at the time) flew their respective equipment for quite a while before the lists were "integrated" to whatever degree.
05-14-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Njflyguy
Wouldn't a merged list potentially mean a 1st year DL pilot fresh over from another regional fall behind a 4 year Endeavor pilot who didn't yet flow? I also remember the US-HP merger some around 2005 and the two pilot groups (who were very adversarial to each other at the time) flew their respective equipment for quite a while before the lists were "integrated" to whatever degree.
05-14-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
If they did a staple would they just open up the RJ’s for bidding then and everyone just fall In depending on who bids what or just run everything separate for awhile ? Guess it would be interesting .
The x years is variable.
I know you have bypassed the flow but I think a staple would be beneficial for you
05-15-2023, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
there will be no merged list. It’s staple or nothing. No matter how much the two MECs push this, existing Delta pilots will not stand for a merged list. I’ve met not a single line pilot who believes this is critically necessary (as in this is management’s problem and not one we should be eagerly trying to fix for them) much less wants to allow a SLI. God help the Delta MEC if they push this through with any kind of concession after the success of our new contract.
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