Endeavor's User Friendly Website Question
 

Howdy,

After spending some 40 minutes trying to find the correct link/email to submit copies of my new pilot certificate and medical, I thought one of you fine folks might be able to direct me.

Thanks,
j

Email to base chief pilot and/or manager.

[email protected]

Why are people so stupid?

Only about 85% of them...

Ouch......

It's ironic that you go by "paid to fly"but we're willing to be jobless.

How do you figure?

Yeah the 15% who weren't pussies and voted no, yet still remain here are the smart ones.

Endeavor sucks!

Yes they do! So does ASA, XJET, SKW, RPH, AWA, CX, . They all suck

The 85% voted this way to keep the pay check coming, not at the unemployment line etc.

The 15% were willing to loose that income and the company get shutdown.

I respect both views. But to casting blame on the 85% for keeping the 15% employed, still getting paid, paying mortgage, car note, kids college, groceries, insurance. Insurance is a huge one!!

If you have no leverage then no one can hear you stomping your feet except your dog.

It is what it is in the big picture.

Here is a question. Would you go to the casino and bet every check you make ? Of course not, to high risk of loosing it all.

That's where the 85% stood.

Again not slamming the 15% but the 85% is not the problem. Pilot demand and leverage is. I feel that will be turning towards the Pilots advantage soon.

In the end take care of your family and your home.

How so? That turd is locked in for 7 years. The only leverage is to do what the 15% suggested, shut the biotch down and go somewhere else.

Your thinking at the regional level. Every major will be hiring soon, most regionals will be absorbed by their major in the next 3-4yrs. The regional won't be able to retain or hire enough pilots. We gain leverage at the table when this happens. Of course the leverage will be at the majors. just my opinion. I prefer to keep my job. There would be no leverage when someone else would do our flying. They already had ours covered.

The Hell if they did! there are aircraft still parked because they dont have adequate staffing to fly them... Delta did not have anyone waiting in the wings to take our flying period. Not one other carrier had staffing to accommodate the additional flying that would have been on the block.
The Ol' comair story is and was not applicable, it took delta a decade to wind them down and in the end they had 30 airframes.

I can give a crap if one pilot voted one way then the other, thats the democracy of the vote.
What ticks me off is when a pilot says they voted yes and continues to p*** and moan about it... go F### yourselves you made the bed so sleep in it!

They had enough covered to shut us down in 12 months. What parked airplanes are you speaking of at Endeavor. We haven't parked any due to staffing. We have parked about 2-4 200's but that's due to the wind down of the 200's. We're weren't short during our negotiations. Now is a different story.

Sometimes in poker you have to call their bluff. I voted to see their hand

For those that care, I got my answer (thank you to those that provided it).

You are now free to go on debating how bad we all are (Please call me a bottom feeder, the bottom in me wants be be whipped).

How do you know? You don't work st AWA, XJET or SKW...
I'd rather be stuck at one of these 3 than Endeavor Air

Legend,
In case you get a shot at the majors or you decide to seek a refund from your accredited university, it's lose and losing. Loose is a different word that you are not intending to use. Loosing is not even a word. Best of luck. Luv

The union was selling this turd as a 6 mos savior.... You have your blood money what are you still doing here?

How is this going to be our advantage? It's a signed contract for 7 yrs...

Did Mgt have "all" the flying covered in 12 mos? I don't know nor do I care anymore, that is in the past and cannot be changed.

What is wrong is that the Union is still trying to coddle Mgt because of the worthless SSP..

I don't like it when our fearless leader Whinechor stands up in the schoolhouse and repeats the same story over and over ending up with "we should wear our hats and do so proudly"

I would like to hear, Yes we have a really poor contract but this our strategy and goals to improve our future.....

Your last question to me has to do with the Q400's, I tend to believe United had a little insight when it came back and offers a what do you need to continue operations contract.

They still have aircraft parked because other airlines are unable to staff the program.

You can currently look at Eagle, Republic air group, Skywest and other regionals to see if they are having troubles with filling their classes..
The answer is yes they are having troubles finding qualified pilots.. Ie pilots without criminal or disciplinary issues.

oops, spell checker just went inop.

Wow ! Have a blessed day.

Where did you get SKW is having trouble? We've been running classes since July without any problem. When we offer a "bonus" for new hires like Eagle and Republic, that's when we're having troubles...

From people who work there that I know..They are telling me seats are open in class.

From what I've seen there running 20+ a class. Now, I've not seen many classes bigger than 25. A couple empty seats here and there hardly constitute as having problems.