marlonmoneda1

So they do the delta interview, which doesnt even have a simulator session???? How the heck is a newbie instructor with no 121 experience supposed to pass an interview that up to 70 percent of guys cant pass who have over 15 years 121 experience?!?! "So Mr newbie Joe, tell me about a time you had a stressful situation in the cockpit" "um, well one time i had a student that barfed." "Wow! Really? Do telllllll...."

Me thinks it will be unfairly watered down comparitively to the SSP or normal interview....either that or we still are gonna have a hard time hiring in volume.

AlaskaBound

Never mind...

I would be furious if I were a 9E pilot right now.

Bzzt

Very interesting, what % of a new hire class is filled with SSP guys and what % will eventually be filled by these flow throughs?

Schwanker

It appears that nearly everyone who interviews has been getting picked up. Out of 8 daily interviews anywhere from 6-8 have been given a CJO. The Endeavor interview apparently will be adjusted to account for less experience, but will screen to identify those who would likely be successful if they had the desired experience.... if that makes sense

Schwanker

Or I'd get my $hit in 1 sock and prepare for a guaranteed interview. The new interviewees are interviewing for an eventual Delta job and if successful, will get it. The current guys will be given the same opportunity, interview for that Delta job. Get up for it.

If they can't pass it and choose not to stay with 9E, I wish them the best of luck with UAL, AMR, JBLU or whoever. Should be a pilots market going forward.

FLYZERG

Can someone please quote txt that says new hires will be getting direct flow?

WWWDGG

Hold your pants before you get to excited the details.....


The catch:
3. Eligibility Requirements. Notwithstanding an Endeavor pilot’s active status at Endeavor and
receipt of the EtD Commitment when offered employment at Endeavor, each EtD Commitment
pilot must meet the following requirements on the date the pilot is offered a new-hire class at
Delta to be considered eligible and thereafter remain eligible pursuant to the following:

a) Qualifications

i. Possess a four (4)-year degree from an accredited university;
ii. Possess, or obtain before the date of hire at Delta, a current yellow fever vaccination;
iii. Have served at least two (2) years in active status as a Captain for Endeavor; Note: For
the purpose of determining eligible time that can be counted towards the two (2) year
Captain requirement, time in an Inactive Status will not be considered. Inactive Status
means the status of a pilot who is furloughed, receiving long term disability benefits, on
military leave for more than 30 consecutive days, on medical leave, on personal leave,
on FMLA leave, on maternity leave, or on a disciplinary suspension.
iv. Complete any legal/statutorily required Pilots Records Improvement Act (PRIA)
disclosures consistent with the policies and practices of Endeavor and Delta;
v. Complete Delta’s standard new-hire employment background check. Should such
background check disclose information not previously disclosed at the time of hiring at
Endeavor, or information relating to events that occurred after being hired at Endeavor
that were not previously made aware to Endeavor and Delta, then such pilot will be
given due consideration to his overall record at Endeavor, and may thereafter remain
eligible for employment at Delta at Delta’s discretion; and
vi. Agree to the release of all employment, training and other information by Endeavor to
Delta to verify eligibility for the EtD Commitment;
vii. Complete any other pre-employment administrative, paperwork or other similar tasks.

b) Training Records. A pilot will be ineligible to be hired at Delta under the EtD
Commitment upon receipt of three (3) or more unsatisfactory results (unsats) on any of the
following checking-type events at Endeavor within the previous five (5) years:

a) Advanced Qualification Program (AQP) Checking Events

(a) Systems Validation (SV)
(b) Electronic Systems Validation (ESV)
(c) Procedures Validation (PV)
(d) Maneuvers Validation (MV)
(e) Line Operating Experience (LOE)

b) FAR Part 121, Subpart N. & Subpart O. Checking Events

(a) Oral Examination
(b) Proficiency Check (PC)
(c) Type Rating
(d) Line Check (LC)
(e) Proficiency Check - FAR Part 121 Appendix F.

c) Disciplinary Letters. An Endeavor pilot’s eligibility to be hired at Delta under the EtD
Commitment will be suspended during the period a Disciplinary Letter is “active” in his/her
file per the terms and subject to the processes of the Endeavor-ALPA Collective Bargaining
Agreement or any applicable Endeavor policies.

d) Reliability (Attendance Levels) or Dependability (Strike Letters). An Endeavor pilot’s
eligibility to be hired at Delta under the EtD Commitment will be suspended :

(1) During the period a reliability or dependability letter is “active” in his file; or,
(2) If the pilot has received two (2) or more reliability and/or dependability letters within
the previous two (2) years that were not subsequently overturned or removed per the
terms and subject to the processes of the Endeavor-ALPA Collective Bargaining
Agreement or any applicable Endeavor policies.

FLYZERG

So basically it is a true flow as in they do not have to interview for a job at delta, but the catch is that they must be a Captain for two years? And all that other BS that most candidates already have. It could work, only problem is if there was some way new hires could find out that there is enough lifers/SSP denied captains to hold every captain seat for 81 planes.

gredenko

On the back end of this point, out of 24 pilots hired, 8 have washed out of training. The washout rate is ironically the same as the SSP success rate.

Natca

What is upgrade at now? Are you guys still displacing captains?