Ultralight

Ask the FAA (I believe they're called) what they would like you to do if you find a maintenance problem with a revenue generating passenger airliner.

MrMustache

What happens when they keep getting ops check good on everything? You forgot that as an option, IF they think people are writing stuff up just to write stuff up thats where the problem is. Have I mentioned Compass at all on this thread? No, this is about you guys being on the lower end of the intelligence scale. ALL I am saying is don't post this crap.

LostInPA

My understanding is that FAA inspectors on the maintenance side of things become very unhappy when they see a re-occurring write up with "OPS CHECKS GOOD", and then the same failure happens again and actually causes a big problem.

Ultralight

Wow, Pinnacle pilots are on the lower end of the intelligence scale? Well at least they get to benefit from your infinite words of wisdom on here.

MrMustache

I am referring to the people in this thread advocating this, I would be saying the same if it were XJT, PSA,AE or whoever. I'm done with this one.

Ultralight

An interesting sentence coming from someone on the "upper" end of the intelligence scale.

Bravo3

It's easy for the company to prove a work action such as increased MX writes ups. Company lawyers can identify the trend and nail you with it. Be careful guys, you're putting your future, personal fortunes, and your Union at risk. CVG 12/1999...been there, done that.

CPZ175

Can't save 'em all, Bravo. I'm out of here. Good luck, guys.

Pinchanickled

You should be embarrassed of yourself. I'm disgusted with your attitude. Safety should have the biggest thread! Endeavor is at a critical time right now, there's been too many blows. While the rest if the industry received HUGE pay raises, Endeavor pilots agreed to concessions. Endeavor pilots have been skipped over on jobs at their very own mainline carrier and stuck at 4th concessionary regional FO pay MAX! It is a total embarrassment to the profession. Their is so much focus on how terrible of an airline Endeavor has become, it is a MAJOR distraction to Safety.

Colgan had ONE accident, and it changed our industry to the point where we now have new rest rules.

Pilots, most pilots, are compensated very well due to the perfection in Safety that we offer to the transportation world. DO NOT JEOPARDIZE THIS.


It is disgusting to me to see pilots state a "job action" when in reality, taking it slow may be exactly what we need to preserve our industry.




To everyone else who is willing to talk about Safety, and how to be more safe, you deserve everyone's respect. Let's keep this thread on track and share ways to avoid another accident.

mooney

We have heard from many of you, and we know that you share our frustration about the announcement that new hires will receive more favorable treatment than our current pilots. We can absolutely assure you that we will continue to work toward a more equitable resolution, and remember that if we remain strong and unified we will achieve our goals.

But we will fail if we act or react emotionally. Some of you have expressed your frustration by suggesting action that, if taken seriously and implemented, would virtually ensure that we will neither achieve our goals here nor obtain the positions with mainline carriers that many of us expect to achieve. You may have seen postings suggesting that we send a message to management through the way we perform or fail to perform our responsibilities as pilots and employees. Implementing those kinds of suggestions will have negative instead of positive consequences, and the MEC strongly discourages any such action.

You need to know that it is illegal under the Railway Labor Act to post messages on an online message board (or to make any communications) that in any way call for, support, encourage, condone or hint at any job action. Among other things, a job action can be any of the following actions done with the intent or for the purposes of interfering with or disrupting Endeavor’s normal operations:

• Calling in sick or fatigued;
• Refusing to pick up (accept or request) open time, overtime, premium time, or any other type of voluntary flying;
• Discouraging any pilot from picking up (accept or request) open time, overtime, premium time, or any other type of voluntary flying;
• Writing up mechanical issues;
• Using safety as a pretext for engaging in actions intended to interfere with or disrupt Endeavor’s operations;
• Performing routine tasks more slowly than usual for the purposes of interfering with or disrupting Endeavor’s operations.

If you engage in any of these actions or post any communication that calls for, condones or hints at any of these actions, you may be subject to charges that you have participated in illegal concerted activity that violates the Railway Labor Act’s status quo requirement, and you may be terminated.

PLEASE DO NOT SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THIS RISK!

What we need now is complete unity and collective action that straightforwardly and legally demonstrates our concerns. If you are frustrated and want to get involved, attend a P2P function or participate in a picketing event. Come to your local council meeting. Volunteer for a committee. More than anything else, we need to demonstrate to management that we are unified and strong. Division within our group only undermines our effort and distracts from the primary issue at hand, which is that new hire pilots should not be treated more favorably than the pilots who have sacrificed and worked hard to save our company. Keep the focus on our common message.

In Unity,
The Endeavor Air MEC