The HILARITY of the Endeavor to Delta Program
06-12-2014, 06:52 PM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: The Parlor
Posts: 1,243
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
If the EtD is cancelled, those already hired will be grandfathered in.
06-12-2014, 09:52 PM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 7er
Posts: 1,673
06-13-2014, 05:38 AM
#33
Looking for a laugh
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,099
Originally Posted by MEMbrain
Here is ALPA upon hearing that Delta cancelled the EtD program.
06-13-2014, 12:10 PM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
Originally Posted by MrMustache
Your individual flow rights can be cancelled at anytime though. That's what he's getting at.
That doesn't sound right.
06-13-2014, 12:52 PM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 131
Originally Posted by pagey
So if you're hired under this program they can just come back and cancel your individual rights at any time?
That doesn't sound right.
That doesn't sound right.
Nothing in this industry is protected unless it's in a legally binding form, i.e LOA, MOU, CBA etc...and even then a company can do whatever they want and force a grievance and hope they will win in arbitration.
Anyone thinking of going to Endevour for this deal really really needs to understand the fine print...
06-13-2014, 01:27 PM
#37
:-)
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
The EtD candidate has a legal CJO document signed between them, and Delta management. If you are accepted through the EtD program, you will be a Delta pilot provided you play ball with 9E management. They can cancel the program at any time, however pilots previously accepted will be grandfathered in, and become Delta pilots.
Apps are flooding in, that means, ASA, Skywest, etc will have their rates reset because 9E is now viable.
Apps are flooding in, that means, ASA, Skywest, etc will have their rates reset because 9E is now viable.
06-13-2014, 07:26 PM
#38
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,082
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
If the EtD is cancelled, those already hired will be grandfathered in.
06-13-2014, 07:31 PM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,082
Originally Posted by Mesabah
The EtD candidate has a legal CJO document signed between them, and Delta management. If you are accepted through the EtD program, you will be a Delta pilot provided you play ball with 9E management. They can cancel the program at any time, however pilots previously accepted will be grandfathered in, and become Delta pilots.
Apps are flooding in, that means, ASA, Skywest, etc will have their rates reset because 9E is now viable.
Apps are flooding in, that means, ASA, Skywest, etc will have their rates reset because 9E is now viable.
06-13-2014, 07:43 PM
#40
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
Originally Posted by Avroman
Sure.... try selling that to the supposedly guaranteed flow Mesaba pilots.... 980 of about 1060 would disagree with you.
1. Who is Delta going to merge with, or what Delta merger would the government even approve of now?
2. Who would Delta merge with and *not* be in the drivers seat?
I just don't see either case happening.
Further, I don't see flows being taken away carte blanche or en masse...not in this environment. Yeah, I could see individuals ticking off Delta and losing their flow, or the flow being stopped *after* a certain date. However I think the language is fairly clear that those who get the nod have a flow which is theirs to lose.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
