Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
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Oh for F sake....probably the same turds over and over....RNAV stuff in ATL is a cake walk compared to the garbage out of LGA and JFK....if you can't handle ATL then it's time to rethink this profession. you make the rest of us that are semi competent look like morons...or better yet they need to just dequal and remove the problems from the line. Problem solved. I am curious how many new captains are involved with this...these new guys are really getting reputation for themselves.
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Yes. Let's continue the to prop up the minority making close to guarantee at the expense of those working more. It may have appeared equitable when there was barely any flying to go around, but it is not now.
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You can dress a chicken in a skirt and call it a Pary Fowl if you want, but it's still a chicken.
If the raise is based on 83 hours, but they only pay us 75 hours, then it's a pay cut, period. Heck, since you are willing to work more hours, why not base it on 95 hours min guarantee?
"prop up the minority making close to guarantee at the expense of those working more." I LOL'd. If I work 75 hours, then I expect to get paid for 75 hours. If I work 85, then 85. If you choose to work 130, fine. But if you work 130 hours for $50 an hour vice working 130 hours for $55 an hour, you'll be making less money. If you are so keen on getting paid less money per hour, Mesa will take you in a heartbeat, I suspect.
If the raise is based on 83 hours, but they only pay us 75 hours, then it's a pay cut, period. Heck, since you are willing to work more hours, why not base it on 95 hours min guarantee?
"prop up the minority making close to guarantee at the expense of those working more." I LOL'd. If I work 75 hours, then I expect to get paid for 75 hours. If I work 85, then 85. If you choose to work 130, fine. But if you work 130 hours for $50 an hour vice working 130 hours for $55 an hour, you'll be making less money. If you are so keen on getting paid less money per hour, Mesa will take you in a heartbeat, I suspect.
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I believe most of these deviations are on the 200. So do you really believe that senior 900 drivers that have been doing ATL RNAV departures for years are suddenly screwing up now?
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Ever heard of status quo? What you're suggesting could easily be construed as a job action. Look at what happened to Spirit pilots recently. The temporary restraining order filed and granted against them included APC posts.
Bonus' are not pay, especially ones scheduled to expire.
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Basing it off anything other than 75 is saying now you HAVE to work more whether you want to or not or else suffer a pay cut. What happens when the economy turns and there's less open time to pick up? What happens during recurrent months when you barely clear 75. What happens when your wife gets sick and needs you home more? What happens when............? You get the point.
I cannot fathom how you people are suggesting it's ok to accept a scenario where you have to work more than you've agreed to in order to make the same amount of money, and lose money when you can't. If this was any other industry there would be protests in the streets. You agreeing to work more does not debase or devalue those of us who simply work what we've agreed to in our offer letter. And for those of us who do occasionally make less than 83 hours, we'll be taking a pay cut in the largest period of pay growth in pilot history. How does that statement alone not turn your stomach?
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