Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
10-14-2017, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
This guy gets it!
I guess the fear tactic of AA & DL using "Comair" is working.
Grow some balls people, different day and age.
They AA, DL, UA created a monster in our industry. 1st age 60 rule extension, a drastic change occurred in 2009 with the Colgan Air / United Express accident, and 2013/2014 with the 1500hr rule implementation.
Some of y'all need to take your thongs off and let your manhood dangle once in a while to remind yourself your not a little ..... boy. Put your big boy pants on, tighten your damn belt buckle & strap on your boots.
I guess the fear tactic of AA & DL using "Comair" is working.
Grow some balls people, different day and age.
They AA, DL, UA created a monster in our industry. 1st age 60 rule extension, a drastic change occurred in 2009 with the Colgan Air / United Express accident, and 2013/2014 with the 1500hr rule implementation.
Some of y'all need to take your thongs off and let your manhood dangle once in a while to remind yourself your not a little ..... boy. Put your big boy pants on, tighten your damn belt buckle & strap on your boots.
Let's grow some balls!
Because an industry leading contract of payrates is not good enough on an LOA they don't have to negotiate at all!
Let's show Delta we don't deserve to be treated and paid as the best!
That'll show em.
10-14-2017, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
Different times. They need us more than we need them. Until you understand that, we will never see eye to eye. I would have absolutely zero difficulty finding another 121 job. Bonus bonus bonus
2. I'm sure that you could get another 121 job, but you get to start all over with seniority. That doesn't sound like very much fun.
We're getting a $23 an hour increase in pay rates, increase in per diem, increase in 401k, increase in sick accrual, better commuter policy, return of long call reserve, additional day off for reserves and an increase in fleet guarantee.
What were you hoping to get? Every pilot gets a Porsche in recurrent?
10-14-2017, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
Comair? How? They can transfer to another company but there are no pilots to fly them and can't train 2000 pilots overnight. The largest is SKW and they already took on too much flying and have a 6 month backup for the CRJ. Not saying the TA is bad but right now regional pilots are in high demand.
United is about to ramp up hiring again and the regional crunch will only tighten. And what about Delta and the C series? They are saying they will not pay the tariffs and guess who will have to cover that flying if that happens? Or who is already covering that flying? We do half of the heavy lifting why should we not get compensated for our work. Pay and 401k in the regionals are a joke and its time to end the C scale.
United is about to ramp up hiring again and the regional crunch will only tighten. And what about Delta and the C series? They are saying they will not pay the tariffs and guess who will have to cover that flying if that happens? Or who is already covering that flying? We do half of the heavy lifting why should we not get compensated for our work. Pay and 401k in the regionals are a joke and its time to end the C scale.
10-14-2017, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
1. Who's the "they" in this case? Delta? Endeavor Management?
2. I'm sure that you could get another 121 job, but you get to start all over with seniority. That doesn't sound like very much fun.
We're getting a $23 an hour increase in pay rates, increase in per diem, increase in 401k, increase in sick accrual, better commuter policy, return of long call reserve, additional day off for reserves and an increase in fleet guarantee.
What were you hoping to get? Every pilot gets a Porsche in recurrent?
2. I'm sure that you could get another 121 job, but you get to start all over with seniority. That doesn't sound like very much fun.
We're getting a $23 an hour increase in pay rates, increase in per diem, increase in 401k, increase in sick accrual, better commuter policy, return of long call reserve, additional day off for reserves and an increase in fleet guarantee.
What were you hoping to get? Every pilot gets a Porsche in recurrent?
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10-14-2017, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Lol, you all act like the transfer of flying wood be overnight. Look how long it took Delta to wind down Comair. Or how long for the Delta side of Express Jet. All Delta would have to do is time it with the expiration of the bonuses. They have all kinds of time to move flying and airplanes around. Those that think they can bully Delta don't know Delta.
10-14-2017, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
Why don’t you rewind a bit and see what the payrates were pre shamruptcy? Hourly could be more and they can afford it. Per deee em still low. 401k you got me...it’s Better. Sick time? Who calls in sick? aren’t you on Daddy d’s willy? long call? do you remember long call? First b!tch out....12 off yippeee...
2. Yes. I remember long call. I had 28 days off one month and even if it doesn't turn out this way this time, it will allow commuters to sit reserve at home vs at the crashpad. I'd say that's a pretty significant improvement.
10-14-2017, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by APMechXJ
Word is... you guys and girls pass your TA... 700s and 900s.. coming from GoJet.
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