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Old 10-23-2017, 05:46 PM
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Can a RSV CA please tell me how many flying hours a month they are averaging.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by teddy3412 View Post
Wat h out they'll start coming at you with words like inflation.
With exclamation points no doubt. In that case, we may be behind the 2015 rates if they were to be inflated. I couldn’t tell you either way on that.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
With exclamation points no doubt. In that case, we may be behind the 2015 rates if they were to be inflated. I couldn’t tell you either way on that.
It depends on if you calculate the inflation based on December 2015 (when the last rate became effective) or December 2016 (the point from which no further increase would have existed). I would argue it is more appropriate to use the December 2016 date for the calculation.

From Dec 2015 - inflation adjusted using the consumer price index would be $124.20.

From Dec 2016- inflation adjusted using the CPI would be $121.68.

While the increase looks less impressive in that light, keep in mind that we're coming up on December 2017, meaning that if this TA passes it would have only taken a year to get new rates that would now last (with increases) until 2024.

In many cases it has taken airlines YEARS (like 5 or 6) to get a TA, and in that time typically they are working at whatever the last year's rate was.

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Old 10-23-2017, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
It would nearly take an act of God for that to happen... LCA's aren't sitting around to be used in both seats on a whim (even the reserve LCA's)
Not true at all! Happens more than you think. Even won a grievance for this very thing.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
That’s the problem, you haven’t been here long enough.
You're saying that his opinion is invalid because he hasn't been here long enough? I think there is a lot of truth in what he said, especially after so many years making significantly less. We were worth what we could get, and that is what we got. The company would be foolish to over-pay. If they are paying Endeavor pilots more than others, its because they want to grow Endeavor more than the others, or, pilots employed at Endeavor are more valuable that at another carrier. To get more than that is something that no regional has ever done and it's unlikely to ever happen.

If they pay more it's because they need to pay more. Like with the bonuses.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:57 PM
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Vote no if you want. If enough vote no, all the MEC has to do is step back, make a tiny change or two, call it an improved LOA, then put the LOA into effect anyway. A vote is not actually required for an LOA I believe?
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok View Post
The brilliance and ruthlessness they showed Mesaba Pinnacle and Colgan.

The ass whoopin we took in bankruptcy.

The merciless stranglehold Delta has on us.

You can fight it, more power to ya.

I'm riding the current with this one.
we took that whoopin because 42% of the company had a class date at psa or tsa and 42% were too scared to tell delta and the judge, FU I quit. so we ended up with 15% willing to walk with at best 2 weeks notice.
We could kill that stranglehold instantly with a flow to Southwest or United or FedEx or UPS.
Why is everyone so damn chicken**** at the regionals? We do the same job, in worse conditions for half the pay and benefits... yes we fly smaller jets by 20%; but get paid half... enough of this
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr View Post
Can a RSV CA please tell me how many flying hours a month they are averaging.
Last month 97 hours. This month I’m probably not gonna break guarantee
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
This is a factually incorrect statement.

Pre-bankruptcy JCBA 20 year 76 seat captain rate at 12/1/15 (the furthest out rates went) was $119.02

Proposed TA 15 year 76 seat captain rate at 1/1/18 (the first rate available) would be $122.20

That is a $3.18 INCREASE (2.67%) from Pre-bankruptcy JCBA rate at a longevity 5 YEARS earlier.

It is also a $30.44 (33.17%) increase from current 12 year (top of scale) 76 seat captain rate.




Now correct for the rate of inflation...
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by teddy3412 View Post
Wat h out they'll start coming at you with words like inflation.







Does inflation not exist in your neck of the woods?
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