Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
10-26-2017, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ground Effect
CNO and CDO are different. CDO lines are bid as you said. CNO lines are bid on during the early bid pack. There's a form online you fill out to request it along with your request 3 guaranteed days off and preference of CDO's or p3. Or its forced on you as the junior guy.
Originally Posted by Mesabah
It is a separate bid form on the website, not pbs.
10-26-2017, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ground Effect
CNO and CDO are different. CDO lines are bid as you said. CNO lines are bid on during the early bid pack. There's a form online you fill out to request it along with your request 3 guaranteed days off and preference of CDO's or p3. Or its forced on you as the junior guy.
10-26-2017, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AU MD FLYER
Very helpful indeed. Can you explain how you were able to accrue so many credit hours while on RSV? Was this a CNO or CDO line with some RSV built in... or strictly a RSV line? P1, P2, P3 ??? Although I hear that can change from day to day.
I don't work for Endeavor, but I'm considering them for possible future employment.
Also, how many days OFF did you have did you have on each of these 5 months? I'll assume 11 days OFF via the contract, but how many RSV days did they not call or assign you a trip while on RSV?
From the Per Diem info, I'm guessing at being used for 16-17 days or so, and maybe 2-3 days of RSV & not assigned a trip pairing.
If so, what type of trip assignments were "usually" received? (i.e. 1,2,3, or 4 day trips or CDO's?)
Thanks, AU.
I don't work for Endeavor, but I'm considering them for possible future employment.
Also, how many days OFF did you have did you have on each of these 5 months? I'll assume 11 days OFF via the contract, but how many RSV days did they not call or assign you a trip while on RSV?
From the Per Diem info, I'm guessing at being used for 16-17 days or so, and maybe 2-3 days of RSV & not assigned a trip pairing.
If so, what type of trip assignments were "usually" received? (i.e. 1,2,3, or 4 day trips or CDO's?)
Thanks, AU.
10-26-2017, 11:39 AM
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Position: CRJ900 Captain
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly
Just wanted you all to know the MEC decided to vote and give themselves a pay raise coming out of our pockets!!
Just wondering
10-26-2017, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 2dubs
Exactly how much is coming out of our pockets? If it is too much than how much, and given all the BS that comes with being a Union leader, (at any company) do you think they should take.
Just wondering
Just wondering
10-26-2017, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Reserve King
What is CNO?
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10-26-2017, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dubs
So many of the "NO" voters talk about the less than $2300.00 pay cut some very small number of pilots will have to take if this TA is passed. They are so focused on 75 hrs of credit vs 83 hrs of credit they forget about the majority of us who stand to enjoy a substantial pay raise.
For Example: currently I am at the top of our pay scale. Over the years I have averaged 90hrs of credit per month. Here is what I stand to lose if this does not pass.
Year: 2016 Credit Hrs: 1160 x $90.00/hr = $104,400
+ $23,000
Total for 2016 $127,400
In 2018 if I credit the same number of hours:
1160 x $122.00/hr = $141,520
Pay Difference $14,100
I do not understand why I should take a $14,000 pay cut so someone can sit at home and only credit 75 hours/month. I get it some new hires and Reserve guys may temporarily credit less than 75 hours/month. However, over the life of the LOA, unless you choose to credit 75 hours/month everyone stands to make substantially more than they are making today.
For Example: currently I am at the top of our pay scale. Over the years I have averaged 90hrs of credit per month. Here is what I stand to lose if this does not pass.
Year: 2016 Credit Hrs: 1160 x $90.00/hr = $104,400
+ $23,000
Total for 2016 $127,400
In 2018 if I credit the same number of hours:
1160 x $122.00/hr = $141,520
Pay Difference $14,100
I do not understand why I should take a $14,000 pay cut so someone can sit at home and only credit 75 hours/month. I get it some new hires and Reserve guys may temporarily credit less than 75 hours/month. However, over the life of the LOA, unless you choose to credit 75 hours/month everyone stands to make substantially more than they are making today.
Everyone gets a raise with potential to make more and then soft money, better commuting language etc!
My advice to the junior crowd, before you vote no, look back in history and see where a lot of us have come from and how much this company has changed for the better. Is everything we want in this new amended contract? No, and it wasn’t intended to do that. You always have to have room to grow and and focus on certain objectives which I believe our union did.
When we pass this TA it sets the bar higher and someone else will set it even higher. Causing more demand and more negotiations down the road. As far as flow and job progression? It will happen when Daddy D wants it too just like our new pay rates in this TA.
Whether you stay at Endeavor or leave for another airline, our future in Aviation is looking brighter every day. So to the yout, you have a lot to look forward to but don’t forget where some of us have come from.
10-26-2017, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by legend
Good Post!!!
Everyone gets a raise with potential to make more and then soft money, better commuting language etc!
My advice to the junior crowd, before you vote no, look back in history and see where a lot of us have come from and how much this company has changed for the better. Is everything we want in this new amended contract? No, and it wasn’t intended to do that. You always have to have room to grow and and focus on certain objectives which I believe our union did.
When we pass this TA it sets the bar higher and someone else will set it even higher. Causing more demand and more negotiations down the road. As far as flow and job progression? It will happen when Daddy D wants it too just like our new pay rates in this TA.
Whether you stay at Endeavor or leave for another airline, our future in Aviation is looking brighter every day. So to the yout, you have a lot to look forward to but don’t forget where some of us have come from.
Everyone gets a raise with potential to make more and then soft money, better commuting language etc!
My advice to the junior crowd, before you vote no, look back in history and see where a lot of us have come from and how much this company has changed for the better. Is everything we want in this new amended contract? No, and it wasn’t intended to do that. You always have to have room to grow and and focus on certain objectives which I believe our union did.
When we pass this TA it sets the bar higher and someone else will set it even higher. Causing more demand and more negotiations down the road. As far as flow and job progression? It will happen when Daddy D wants it too just like our new pay rates in this TA.
Whether you stay at Endeavor or leave for another airline, our future in Aviation is looking brighter every day. So to the yout, you have a lot to look forward to but don’t forget where some of us have come from.
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