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11-29-2017, 09:59 AM
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Got it. I saw it mentioned in all the docs sent after CJO, prior to indoc. I guess no way to review prior to class date? Would be interesting to see where the procedures differ from previous 121 jobs.
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11-29-2017, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
Don't you dare say "well, at expressjet we did it this way and I think....." Just learn the 9E way. Their checklists and flows come directly from Delta and don't easily flow well and the 9E training department knows it, but they are stuck doing it this way.
11-29-2017, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Reserve King
When do you get access to the FOM and other materials online? I read in some documents that were sent that we should access them ASAP from the website, but I don’t know how to access that part of the website yet.
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The employee website with everything on it is endeavorairnet.com. But I just remembered that you probably don't get access until indoc starts. You actually get/create logins for upwards of 10 different systems, some of which are part of the main website, and some of which are entirely separate. And you have to change your password for most of them every couple of months. It's kind of a pain in the ass.
But the bottom line is, no FOM access until you show up to class, unless I remember wrong or something has changed.
11-29-2017, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeAv8tor
Anyone know why we switched hotels in Buffalo? Was it because the last hotel was decent?
11-29-2017, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
That could be worded better. My point is NOT: Don't mention xjt or they will slap you down. My point IS don't mention the xjt stuff, because there's no point. Just learn the 9E stuff.
We like delta but boy are their procedures useless for this Canadian Boi.
11-29-2017, 11:17 AM
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If you are previous airline you should already know that the procedures should be known basically "cold". Being surprised that you needed to be more prepared is well, not being prepared.
I transitioned from another airline and I was instructor who was intimately familiar with the previous procedures...it was a difficult flush but by the end of PT it was less awkward enough to be quite successful in sims. Do what everyone should do regardless of background... Extra study... Those trainers have lots of open slots.
I transitioned from another airline and I was instructor who was intimately familiar with the previous procedures...it was a difficult flush but by the end of PT it was less awkward enough to be quite successful in sims. Do what everyone should do regardless of background... Extra study... Those trainers have lots of open slots.
11-29-2017, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeAv8tor
Anyone know why we switched hotels in Buffalo? Was it because the last hotel was decent?
11-29-2017, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vessbot
My complaint is not that they didn't tell us "how to" learn it (you read the CFM and memorize the material, how else?), but rather that they didn't clearly tell us to learn it to begin with.
At the end of the week before, in telling us to get ready for the FTD's (procedures trainers) the ground school teachers used a lot of phrases like "look over..." and "get familiar with..."
No. Don't look over or get familiar... Straight up learn it, because that's what's expected by the FTD instructors, who are a different department. That means all the flows, callous and profiles, straight through, verbatim, as if you're gonna fly the airplane. From cold and dark to shut down. You'll be running through all this like a sim session; the FTD's actually fly, just with no yoke (AP only), motion, or visuals.
At the end of the week before, in telling us to get ready for the FTD's (procedures trainers) the ground school teachers used a lot of phrases like "look over..." and "get familiar with..."
No. Don't look over or get familiar... Straight up learn it, because that's what's expected by the FTD instructors, who are a different department. That means all the flows, callous and profiles, straight through, verbatim, as if you're gonna fly the airplane. From cold and dark to shut down. You'll be running through all this like a sim session; the FTD's actually fly, just with no yoke (AP only), motion, or visuals.
11-29-2017, 12:26 PM
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Thanks for all the info, interviewing next month. I'm on the ERJ side of Xjet but I think our future is still very uncertain and we're still extremely stagnated and underpaid. I can go across the river to 9E and make more than twice as much while getting PIC time.
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