Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
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Disciplinary action for what? Making a non-inappropriate or offensive hand gesture? childish sure, but not like he was giving the bird. Or throwing up gang signs. For those that don’t know what he was doing, it’s a hand gesture grade schoolers do, if someone catches you making that gesture below their waist they get a punch you in the arm. Its a kids game. Not defending it, its just childish at most. Its like putting rabbit ears on someone
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Disciplinary action for what? Making a non-inappropriate or offensive hand gesture? childish sure, but not like he was giving the bird. Or throwing up gang signs. For those that don’t know what he was doing, it’s a hand gesture grade schoolers do, if someone catches you making that gesture below their waist they get a punch you in the arm. Its a kids game. Not defending it, its just childish at most. Its like putting rabbit ears on someone
At least a stern talking-to sounds very appropriate for someone who hasn't learned the difference between a picture for, say, a high school club, and a professional event at your job at a traditional industry. Did the photographer say "OK, silly poses now?" No? Then it's not the time for a dumbass prank. One might say he has given himself a good learning opportunity.
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You shouldn’t generalize. I’m an FO been here a year and a half, have about 700 121 time. 90 percent of the CA’s I fly with rely on the autopilot way too much, to the point where if I choose to hand fly they can’t handle the workload of working the FCP and suggest for me to put the A/P on.
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Circle game
It's called the "circle game." My 48 year old wife and her whole family think it's hilarious. They do it to each other all the time when they are together. Of course I agree the time and place was innappropriate, I think its an overreaction to do anything more than photoshop it and maybe shoot him an email or a phone call about it.
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You shouldn’t generalize. I’m an FO been here a year and a half, have about 700 121 time. 90 percent of the CA’s I fly with rely on the autopilot way too much, to the point where if I choose to hand fly they can’t handle the workload of working the FCP and suggest for me to put the A/P on.
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I don't think it's that they "can't" handle the workload, but more that they don't "want" to handle it sometimes.
With that said, there's nothing wrong with hand flying, and most shouldn't have a problem with it unless it's some complex RNAV departure that you're doing, or it's the fifth leg of the day and fatigue is maybe setting in. Hopefully you're at least briefing that you're going to do that out of courtesy.
Some day if you're lucky, you'll have racked up many many more hours than you currently have, and then you'll fly with someone with 700 who decides to hand fly it when you're tired and maybe not in the mood for extra work. Then he'll complain on Internet forums that 90 percent of the captains he flies with can't handle something they've been doing for decades. As Barkley and the TNT gang would say...C'mon man.
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You say you shouldn't generalize and then you kinda generalize by saying 90 percent of the CAs you fly with rely on the autopilot way too much.
I don't think it's that they "can't" handle the workload, but more that they don't "want" to handle it sometimes.
With that said, there's nothing wrong with hand flying, and most shouldn't have a problem with it unless it's some complex RNAV departure that you're doing, or it's the fifth leg of the day and fatigue is maybe setting in. Hopefully you're at least briefing that you're going to do that out of courtesy.
Some day if you're lucky, you'll have racked up many many more hours than you currently have, and then you'll fly with someone with 700 who decides to hand fly it when you're tired and maybe not in the mood for extra work. Then he'll complain on Internet forums that 90 percent of the captains he flies with can't handle something they've been doing for decades. As Barkley and the TNT gang would say...C'mon man.
I don't think it's that they "can't" handle the workload, but more that they don't "want" to handle it sometimes.
With that said, there's nothing wrong with hand flying, and most shouldn't have a problem with it unless it's some complex RNAV departure that you're doing, or it's the fifth leg of the day and fatigue is maybe setting in. Hopefully you're at least briefing that you're going to do that out of courtesy.
Some day if you're lucky, you'll have racked up many many more hours than you currently have, and then you'll fly with someone with 700 who decides to hand fly it when you're tired and maybe not in the mood for extra work. Then he'll complain on Internet forums that 90 percent of the captains he flies with can't handle something they've been doing for decades. As Barkley and the TNT gang would say...C'mon man.
Right just like the CA with thousands of hours I fly with can’t get the concept of landing at Ref-5 to 7 knots and floating halfway down the runway, and landing nose level in the 900. But, yet the 2500 hour 24 year old captains, come in on speed and land textbook every time . “Extra work”’ it’s called your job.
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