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Old 05-04-2018, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MTlife View Post
There was memo 18-01 in the vacancy tab that clearly says the ATL growth was not gonna happen as fast as they orginally planned due to EV consolidating all their flying in ATL as they wind down their Delta flying. So we have 16 lines of flying for summer planned and it should be fully grown in Fall with 20 lines of flying.
The last of the ExpressJet planes arrive in June so that is the end of the line... And 20 lines is far short of what we were looking at having at the beginning of this swapping. ATL was supposed to be on par for size with New York, that clearly isn't happening now.
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Old 05-05-2018, 06:07 AM
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The last of the ExpressJet planes arrive in June so that is the end of the line... And 20 lines is far short of what we were looking at having at the beginning of this swapping. ATL was supposed to be on par for size with New York, that clearly isn't happening now.
You don’t understand. The point is that Expressjet wanted their last base to be Atlanta. The initial plan is that we replace the EV 900s (ATL) and SkyWest replaces the EV 700s (LGA). If that plan was followed, their ATL base would be done next month and everybody would be LGA based through November when the last 700 is parked.
Even though we’re getting the last 900, it’s going to LGA, not ATL. This is what happened when we got the EV 900s:

The 900 for EV that was sent to us was replaced in ATL by one of their 700s that was send down there from LGA. When we got that plane back online, it was sent to LGA to replace their 700. As we got more and more 900s, they were sent to LGA to replace all of their 700s so they could all be moved to ATL.

Then as the OO 175SCs come on slowly, they’ll replace us in LGA and that 900 will go from LGA to ATL to replace an EV 700 which will be parked. So we will slowly be shifting flying from LGA to ATL until all of OO’s 175SCs are here and all of the EV 700s are parked.
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Old 05-05-2018, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
The last of the ExpressJet planes arrive in June so that is the end of the line... And 20 lines is far short of what we were looking at having at the beginning of this swapping. ATL was supposed to be on par for size with New York, that clearly isn't happening now.
Also ATL will be a lot closer to on par with NY...if you include the 200 flying which NY has very little of (about 25 departures per day total between JFK/LGA) and ATL has a lot (about 65 departures per day).
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Old 05-05-2018, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rayeli View Post
You don’t understand. The point is that Expressjet wanted their last base to be Atlanta. The initial plan is that we replace the EV 900s (ATL) and SkyWest replaces the EV 700s (LGA). If that plan was followed, their ATL base would be done next month and everybody would be LGA based through November when the last 700 is parked.
Even though we’re getting the last 900, it’s going to LGA, not ATL. This is what happened when we got the EV 900s:

The 900 for EV that was sent to us was replaced in ATL by one of their 700s that was send down there from LGA. When we got that plane back online, it was sent to LGA to replace their 700. As we got more and more 900s, they were sent to LGA to replace all of their 700s so they could all be moved to ATL.

Then as the OO 175SCs come on slowly, they’ll replace us in LGA and that 900 will go from LGA to ATL to replace an EV 700 which will be parked. So we will slowly be shifting flying from LGA to ATL until all of OO’s 175SCs are here and all of the EV 700s are parked.
As those Skywest planes are being delivered now, you’d think there would be a few ATL 900 vacancies on 18-03 with July/August move and training dates but nope, nothing.
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:16 PM
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Who said everyone needs training. If staying in same seat/aircraft and just changing base, 18-03 players can move 1 July. Thought we were ramping up ATL ops this summer. Guess not.

On a parallel note, no 900 FO TDYS to ATL next month. First time that has happened since Nov. put the two together and we ain’t growing as fast in ATL as first told.
The company can only TDY 3 months in a row into a base/plane/seat and then they have to do something different for 1 month ie TDY 900CAs out of Atlanta. I expect FO TDY from NYC to ATL to start back in July.

New hires are going NYC 900 because those are the only spots left from 18-02 for 900 FO. No conspiracy - just the company following part of the contract. I wish they would follow the entire contract!
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:42 AM
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The company can only TDY 3 months in a row into a base/plane/seat and then they have to do something different for 1 month ie TDY 900CAs out of Atlanta. I expect FO TDY from NYC to ATL to start back in July.

New hires are going NYC 900 because those are the only spots left from 18-02 for 900 FO. No conspiracy - just the company following part of the contract. I wish they would follow the entire contract!
Just a thought but if they’re TDY’ing ATL 900 CAs up to NYC while simultaneously not TDY’ing NYC 900 FOs to ATL, maybe they’re building some more ATL flying into the NYC pairings for June.

But if they’re planning to start TDYing down to ATL again in July, why not just open some vacancies down there in July? Seems cheaper for the company than constant TDYs.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:32 AM
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Just a thought but if they’re TDY’ing ATL 900 CAs up to NYC while simultaneously not TDY’ing NYC 900 FOs to ATL, maybe they’re building some more ATL flying into the NYC pairings for June.

But if they’re planning to start TDYing down to ATL again in July, why not just open some vacancies down there in July? Seems cheaper for the company than constant TDYs.
I’d imagine they know what’s coming and are using 18-03 more or less to be able to continue to place new hires somewhere. Otherwise it’s a small placeholder vacancy until something major is announced
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
I’d imagine they know what’s coming and are using 18-03 more or less to be able to continue to place new hires somewhere. Otherwise it’s a small placeholder vacancy until something major is announced
My thoughts exactly. Not every vacancy is not gonna be some big brand shift of movement in the company. We do have new hires coming aboard still in case people forgot.
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:22 AM
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What's interesting is it appears they have lowered the minimums to 950 hours for even the 900 CA positions which wasn't the case on 18-02. Anyone have any data on how many CA qualified FOs we even have? Because it seems they're getting even more desperate for CAs.
I'm hoping the 12 NYC 200 CA spots go to new hires wanting to jump into the left seat right away, and I don't get a bunch of guys above me deciding to upgrade all of a sudden taking the 33 900 spots and getting stuck with a seat lock in that hot underpowered bucket for bolts for a year.
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:37 AM
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Are reserve captains being used more on the 200 or 900??
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