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Old 06-10-2018, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 42jeff View Post
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Propel program an easy route to delta?
It won't be an easy route to Delta if you have to come fly here for several years. Here's the one big problem with programs like this; If you are Delta material, why would you lock yourself into a long commitment at 9E, when you can go to another carrier, and get hired OTS at Delta anyway. If you interview for Delta, it should be for a job at Delta, not ~5 years at Endeavor first.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:45 PM
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Yes they are. Merging is not off the table though. Delta is a master at negotiating. In fact I’d buy someone dinner if they can find online how much Delta paid for each of their 777 purchased from Asia. But I’d lose my anonymity and would t be able to Talk Turkey anymore. TSH may still do this but another round of negotiations are in order.
When did Delta buy 777’s from Asia? What did they do with them?
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:50 PM
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When did Delta buy 777’s from Asia? What did they do with them?
Didn't they buy one on the cheap for parts/engines?
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
Didn't they buy one on the cheap for parts/engines?
No, they used aircraft on the international market to drive the price of 777s down, causing much butthurt at Boeing.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
When did Delta buy 777’s from Asia? What did they do with them?
Here is an excerpt from the greatest investment tool ever. Morningstar dot com:

“Finally, Delta drives a hard bargain with aircraft manufacturers and hunts for deals on used aircraft. We point to examples such as the Bombardier C Series order in April 2016 that featured major concessions and the carrier's purchase of used 777s for less than $10 million apiece.”
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
When did Delta buy 777’s from Asia? What did they do with them?
Not sure of the dates. What they did with them is fly them; and still do.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:53 AM
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How long is the wait for OE on the 900 for upgrade, differences and new hire? If you have recently completed or currently waiting for OE please reply with your wait time. Thanks!
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 4myfamily View Post
How long is the wait for OE on the 900 for upgrade, differences and new hire? If you have recently completed or currently waiting for OE please reply with your wait time. Thanks!
I know on the fo initial side it’s 5 days, which is the contractual minimum amount of days off to acclimate to your base (find a crash pad etc). There should be no delay off for differences or upgrade. The training backup is currently on the 200.
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:46 AM
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How long is the wait for OE on the 900 for upgrade, differences and new hire? If you have recently completed or currently waiting for OE please reply with your wait time. Thanks!
Brief to non existent. We're Short of CA
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
It's time the union explore hiring paths to companies other than Delta, Not every pilot wants to work at Delta (nor should every pilot want to)
While you’re spouting suggestions for your union, why don’t you make sure they get you employee pricing for a Ferrari, and positive space credits on Netjets, because they will have exactly the same amount of pull with those companies as they will with any other carrier, major or otherwise. That’s right, zero! Your union has exactly ONE contractual relationship for which it may represent you: between you and your fellow 9E pilots and Endeavor Air Inc. Anything beyond that, like SSP or DGI exists purely as deal where Endeavor acts as a benevolent mediator with DAL. If you really want leverage to get a job with a different major, your options are 1) Take care of your application and resume such that wherever your dream non-Delta job is, they will score your application high enough to earn an interview, then rock the interview, pass the drug test, and then depart into the sunset with your non-Delta dream girl. 2) Use the aforementioned resume and apply to a non-Delta associated regional that has a flow agreement with a non-Delta major. Flow to your non-Delta major at the appointed time.

Your oft-stated preference to go somewhere non-Delta, but glamorous seems to be a bit of an act of peeing from a great height onto someone, but failing to check that you’re pointed directly into the wind. Here is a reality check: owing to where you are posting and the implied details of those posts, you’re employed at 9E, which, SURPRISE, is owned by DAL, and flies passengers for the DAL system. If your heart’s desire is to fly for SWA or AA or UAL, here’s an obvious clue: whining about the 9E union’s failure to craft some sort of flow or interview program with a non-Delta major is kind of asinine. That’s a free clue. For better clues on escaping the DAL universe, you should probably pay good money to Cage Consulting, Emerald Coast, Checked and Set, or RST for application review and interview prep. They can provide actual insight into getting to a non-Delta carrier, and disabuse you of some of your proctal viewing problems. Best of luck.
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