Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
07-13-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 9Etransplant
I’ve been told the TA that was just voted down by AWA was equal in value to our current contract. Yeah our hourly rates are great but our insurance benefits cost less than others.
07-13-2018, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Why do people think our operating costs are higher than non wholly owned regionals? Do you know this as fact, or are you you only basing this off of our contract?
07-13-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Number 2 cost for airline operations is employee salary. Largest employee group for RJ operators? Pilots. 9E pilot cost? Highest in the industry. This doesn’t even begin to compare the overhead cost of operational and managerial staff, which is most bloated at WO carriers. It doesn’t take much deduction to gather a relative understanding of operating cost structures.
07-13-2018, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Bloated how exactly? Delta does our payroll, 401k, health insurance, etc. Endeavor has 4 bases as compared to much much more at Skywest or Republic. That right there is less infrastructure required and less management per base.
07-13-2018, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Endeavor has almost as many people in Crew Scheduling management as SkyWest has Crew schedulers. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. If you think 9E could operate using current staff without a DAL checkbook you have a lot to learn about this sector of the industry.
07-13-2018, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
Any evidence of these staffing numbers you cite?
07-14-2018, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Personal experience. I’ve been inside the OCC and corporate offices of a majority of the regionals in this country. The last time I saw as many desks and titles per aircraft as Endeavor was at Comair. It’s a great operation with some great people, but to think that it would exist as is operating on a FFD budget is either extremely naive or woefully ignorant.
07-14-2018, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Endeavor has almost as many people in Crew Scheduling management as SkyWest has Crew schedulers. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. If you think 9E could operate using current staff without a DAL checkbook you have a lot to learn about this sector of the industry.
Also, they could have reduced costs by giving a flow, so they also have to pay a premium for that.
07-14-2018, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Oh so just your opinion then? I for one find it extremely hard to believe that Skywest is as lean as you say with over twice the pilot group and flight attendants. And ignorant would be just to take your word for it without any supporting facts?
07-14-2018, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
All that excess bloat is due to NYC, Delta is paying a premium to operate out of there, especially with their actual mainline. That said, the revenue is there to justify the high cost. Put another regional in there to save costs, and the operation implodes.
Also, they could have reduced costs by giving a flow, so they also have to pay a premium for that.
Also, they could have reduced costs by giving a flow, so they also have to pay a premium for that.
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