Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
08-01-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason
You do know that BL has been orchestrating many of the moves 9E has made for years prior to his appointment as our #1, right? With his control over DC, his contributions are bigger than any of us can comprehend. But yeah, go ahead and complain about how bad it is here and how our operations are crumbling and our planes are broken and you can't commute home with those 'enhanced travel benefits'...
DL continues to reward the non-union pilot profession destroying bottom feeder animal that is Skywest. They even continue to hire these non-union pilots who have repeatedly refused to join a professional organization which contributes to the safety and government lobby of the pilot profession. They won't hire senior 9E pilots, but they will hire pilots who have undercut the wages and workrule standards of an entire industry?
DC management was complicit with Skywest in the betrayal the ASA side of XJT. Was it really necessary to yank the travel benefits of all those ASA retirees who had served DL passengers for so many years and then retired with the promise of travel benefits?
Really? Was it not enough to just end the contract? Ya gotta bend over the retirees too? Some who retired while DL owned ASA...kinda like the way DL owns 9E now? That right there does not build confidence in our future.
DC is complicit with Skywest in the destruction of the MSP base. Is anyone aware that MSP was a very senior base with quite a few employees who have been turned into unwilling commuters? It's not like the flying went away. Skywest is doing it. Way to recognize our importance to the DC portfolio! Yaaayyyy!
When given a chance, DL forced 3 airlines into an unwilling marriage and pounded thru below-industry standard wages and workrules. A pilot shortage has forced a change in that situation, but there being no Flight Attendant shortage, the FAs are still operating under horrendous wages and workrules.
This is a business and we are meat. We are well treated meat at the moment due to the pilot shortage.
We are not valued teammemebers. Valued teammembers do not fear such things as losing their promised travel benefits after retirement. Valued teammembers know their employer will keep their promises.
By the way, I like it at 9E, nicest people I have ever met, I am treated like a professional, VERY well compensated and great training, but I left my koolaid dispenser sitting on top of the ASA/XJT crewroom popcorn machine.
08-01-2018, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Pretty hard to change much in 5 months. Bill did a good job regardless of what you think.
08-01-2018, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Avrogod
RG did some incredible things while he was here. However there haven't really been many improvements since BL was put into place. In fact we could argue that things have gotten worse with firebreaks.
Personally I will miss BL's willingness to communicate with employees.
08-01-2018, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Avrogod
Bill did a good job? Outside of firebreaks what did he do that has benefited us so far? I'm not saying he destroyed the place but I'm having a hard time seeing anything that he has done that has benefited us. Some people say that he has left us better off than when he started but I find that difficult to agree with.
08-01-2018, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis
Worse for you maybe, but not worse for the airline. The CEO isn't here just to pamper the pilots, there are thousands of other employees to think about. Not to mention Delta and our passengers who provide our paychecks.. I like changes that benefit me too but I also understand that this is a business. If a change is effective for our business and the contract is followed, I don't see a good reason to whine.
Personally I will miss BL's willingness to communicate with employees.
Personally I will miss BL's willingness to communicate with employees.
08-01-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Avrogod
Oh, so its OK to violate the contract for the betterment of the corporation....good to see whose side your on.
Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis
If a change is effective for our business and the contract is followed, I don't see a good reason to whine.
08-01-2018, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis
Learn to read.
08-01-2018, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Avrogod
But the contract wasn't followed, evidence in the fact that ALPA filed a grievance. Our performance was good prior to the firebreaks and firebreaks do little to help 3 hour delays when LGA is in a ground delay program. All it does is reduce our days off by 1-2 on average and have us work for free.
If you don't like working for free, negotiate a duty rig.
08-01-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
The biggest problem with the way DC is managed is Skywest. As long as that bottom feeder is part of the DC portfolio, there will be absolutely no trust between 9E and DC management.
DL continues to reward the non-union pilot profession destroying bottom feeder animal that is Skywest. They even continue to hire these non-union pilots who have repeatedly refused to join a professional organization which contributes to the safety and government lobby of the pilot profession. They won't hire senior 9E pilots, but they will hire pilots who have undercut the wages and workrule standards of an entire industry?
DC management was complicit with Skywest in the betrayal the ASA side of XJT. Was it really necessary to yank the travel benefits of all those ASA retirees who had served DL passengers for so many years and then retired with the promise of travel benefits?
Really? Was it not enough to just end the contract? Ya gotta bend over the retirees too? Some who retired while DL owned ASA...kinda like the way DL owns 9E now? That right there does not build confidence in our future.
DC is complicit with Skywest in the destruction of the MSP base. Is anyone aware that MSP was a very senior base with quite a few employees who have been turned into unwilling commuters? It's not like the flying went away. Skywest is doing it. Way to recognize our importance to the DC portfolio! Yaaayyyy!
When given a chance, DL forced 3 airlines into an unwilling marriage and pounded thru below-industry standard wages and workrules. A pilot shortage has forced a change in that situation, but there being no Flight Attendant shortage, the FAs are still operating under horrendous wages and workrules.
This is a business and we are meat. We are well treated meat at the moment due to the pilot shortage.
We are not valued teammemebers. Valued teammembers do not fear such things as losing their promised travel benefits after retirement. Valued teammembers know their employer will keep their promises.
By the way, I like it at 9E, nicest people I have ever met, I am treated like a professional, VERY well compensated and great training, but I left my koolaid dispenser sitting on top of the ASA/XJT crewroom popcorn machine.
DL continues to reward the non-union pilot profession destroying bottom feeder animal that is Skywest. They even continue to hire these non-union pilots who have repeatedly refused to join a professional organization which contributes to the safety and government lobby of the pilot profession. They won't hire senior 9E pilots, but they will hire pilots who have undercut the wages and workrule standards of an entire industry?
DC management was complicit with Skywest in the betrayal the ASA side of XJT. Was it really necessary to yank the travel benefits of all those ASA retirees who had served DL passengers for so many years and then retired with the promise of travel benefits?
Really? Was it not enough to just end the contract? Ya gotta bend over the retirees too? Some who retired while DL owned ASA...kinda like the way DL owns 9E now? That right there does not build confidence in our future.
DC is complicit with Skywest in the destruction of the MSP base. Is anyone aware that MSP was a very senior base with quite a few employees who have been turned into unwilling commuters? It's not like the flying went away. Skywest is doing it. Way to recognize our importance to the DC portfolio! Yaaayyyy!
When given a chance, DL forced 3 airlines into an unwilling marriage and pounded thru below-industry standard wages and workrules. A pilot shortage has forced a change in that situation, but there being no Flight Attendant shortage, the FAs are still operating under horrendous wages and workrules.
This is a business and we are meat. We are well treated meat at the moment due to the pilot shortage.
We are not valued teammemebers. Valued teammembers do not fear such things as losing their promised travel benefits after retirement. Valued teammembers know their employer will keep their promises.
By the way, I like it at 9E, nicest people I have ever met, I am treated like a professional, VERY well compensated and great training, but I left my koolaid dispenser sitting on top of the ASA/XJT crewroom popcorn machine.
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