Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,309
so let me get this straight, you don't bid for stuff because you don't care, and then come here to complain because you can't get the days off you want?
If you want to pick up trips, bid to put all your days in a specific part of the month. If you want days of- bid for them. if you don't care enough to take the 5 minutes out of your month to bid, you can't complain about what you get.
If you want to pick up trips, bid to put all your days in a specific part of the month. If you want days of- bid for them. if you don't care enough to take the 5 minutes out of your month to bid, you can't complain about what you get.
I only want to swap a day or two when open time is published. I don’t know what days open time trips are going to be on when I bid now do I?? Therefore when I bid I don’t care what days I get off.
I don’t bid for one long stretch off because I have a family, and working reserve stretches of 6/1/6/1/5/9 doesn’t work for us. Further, there is so little overall open time that it doesn’t matter much anyway.
Sorry if this is too complicated.
Lineholder
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: Death by Powerpoint
Posts: 447
Jeezus....
I only want to swap a day or two when open time is published. I don’t know what days open time trips are going to be on when I bid now do I?? Therefore when I bid I don’t care what days I get off.
I don’t bid for one long stretch off because I have a family, and working reserve stretches of 6/1/6/1/5/9 doesn’t work for us. Further, there is so little overall open time that it doesn’t matter much anyway.
Sorry if this is too complicated.
I only want to swap a day or two when open time is published. I don’t know what days open time trips are going to be on when I bid now do I?? Therefore when I bid I don’t care what days I get off.
I don’t bid for one long stretch off because I have a family, and working reserve stretches of 6/1/6/1/5/9 doesn’t work for us. Further, there is so little overall open time that it doesn’t matter much anyway.
Sorry if this is too complicated.
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,309
I’ve gone so far as to pick up out-of-domicile day trip turns for 2 hours of block...
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 213
Some of our pilots need to understand it’s not always going to be possible to get every single day they want off, off. That’s how the career is. The reserve grid is so high because at least on the 900, every single pilot gets used for the really nasty IROPs. We’re lucky enough 3/5ths of our pilots get 15-19 days off a month versus the 11 days off 4/5ths of pilots at other carriers such as Piedmont are getting. Bid for what you want in pbs, rank it high priority, trade with other pilots, trade with open time when able...
You mean every single pilot that isn’t me gets used? ‘Cause I’m still averaging 10 flying hours per month on reserve...
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,011
Not saying you fall into this category but lots of the people making the same complaint on Facebook don’t even bid for “first out” and are therefore “last out” by default.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 97
Some of our pilots need to understand it’s not always going to be possible to get every single day they want off, off. That’s how the career is. The reserve grid is so high because at least on the 900, every single pilot gets used for the really nasty IROPs. We’re lucky enough 3/5ths of our pilots get 15-19 days off a month versus the 11 days off 4/5ths of pilots at other carriers such as Piedmont are getting. Bid for what you want in pbs, rank it high priority, trade with other pilots, trade with open time when able...
I don’t think they use all 60+ 900 pilots on reserve in NYC during IROPS. Either way, it’s just ridiculous to say that the company is overstaffed by ~400 pilots and then not offer the flexibility a green reserve grid offers. Many chose 121 over 135 because of the schedule flexibility that 121 is supposed to offer. It’s understandable why that might not be possible when an outfit is short staffed, but indefensible when grossly overstaffed. I don’t know, maybe management acts like they don’t care because they want to drive people away at this point. I’ve heard that the training dept isn’t allowing do overs on LOE failures at this point.
We can't have our cake and eat it too, when the cake is this expensive.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
I don’t think they use all 60+ 900 pilots on reserve in NYC during IROPS. Either way, it’s just ridiculous to say that the company is overstaffed by ~400 pilots and then not offer the flexibility a green reserve grid offers. Many chose 121 over 135 because of the schedule flexibility that 121 is supposed to offer. It’s understandable why that might not be possible when an outfit is short staffed, but indefensible when grossly overstaffed. I don’t know, maybe management acts like they don’t care because they want to drive people away at this point. I’ve heard that the training dept isn’t allowing do overs on LOE failures at this point.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 2,767
Probably more evidence scheduling has no idea what its doing, or how to properly utilize the first out / last out provisions still.
I have yet to be paid out on a incorrect reserve utilization where scheduling didn't make some sort of defiant excuse why they were right and I was wrong.
Scheduling doesn't care about the contract, and during irops they purposefully violate it. My advise to reserves is to soak them with pilot issue forms. Maybe scheduling will start using pilots correctly if everyone files every time something fishy happens.
I have yet to be paid out on a incorrect reserve utilization where scheduling didn't make some sort of defiant excuse why they were right and I was wrong.
Scheduling doesn't care about the contract, and during irops they purposefully violate it. My advise to reserves is to soak them with pilot issue forms. Maybe scheduling will start using pilots correctly if everyone files every time something fishy happens.
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