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Baradium 03-21-2019 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2786655)
I think it will be. Sec 6 opens with Delta wanting concessions on international JV scope (shifting more flying to the foreign carriers), which goes over like a lead balloon. Company comes back with, well, if you want something, you have to give up some scope, and RJ scope ends up getting sold to protect the widebody pay jobs.

We don't have to give up scope on one end to protect it on the other.

While I appreciate your lack of faith in mainline pilots, there are an awful lot of former RJ drivers and those who were furloughed during the RJ expansion who would have to vote for that.

theUpsideDown 03-21-2019 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2786998)
lot of former RJ drivers and those who were furloughed during the RJ expansion who would have to vote for that.

So you have a majority of former rj drivers? Or is it a growing number and youll still get outvoted?

Flogger 03-21-2019 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2787035)
So you have a majority of former rj drivers? Or is it a growing number and youll still get outvoted?

I got caught up in the whole mainline furlough thing at ASA.

I felt awful for the DL folks who got kicked back to us at ASA. They were mainly former ASA Captains. We hired them and our pilot group agreed they could keep their DL seniority numbers.

Comair refused to do the same.

Comair is dead and has lost their retiree travel benefits.

ASA is dead and has lost their retiree travel benefits.

Doing the right thing by Delta pilots has proven to be a bust. We did the best we could for them at ASA and we got screwed.

Food for thought.

Baradium 03-21-2019 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2787109)
I got caught up in the whole mainline furlough thing at ASA.

I felt awful for the DL folks who got kicked back to us at ASA. They were mainly former ASA Captains. We hired them and our pilot group agreed they could keep their DL seniority numbers.

Comair refused to do the same.

Comair is dead and has lost their retiree travel benefits.

ASA is dead and has lost their retiree travel benefits.

Doing the right thing by Delta pilots has proven to be a bust. We did the best we could for them at ASA and we got screwed.

Food for thought.

While the pilots only have so much control over what regionals Delta uses, I believe you'll find many more former ASA pilots at Delta than Comair.

PotatoChip 03-21-2019 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2787109)
I got caught up in the whole mainline furlough thing at ASA.

I felt awful for the DL folks who got kicked back to us at ASA. They were mainly former ASA Captains. We hired them and our pilot group agreed they could keep their DL seniority numbers.

Comair refused to do the same.

Comair is dead and has lost their retiree travel benefits.

ASA is dead and has lost their retiree travel benefits.

Doing the right thing by Delta pilots has proven to be a bust. We did the best we could for them at ASA and we got screwed.

Food for thought.

Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots.....

Flogger 03-21-2019 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2787129)
Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots.....

What I SAID? Duh!? :D

theUpsideDown 03-21-2019 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2787121)
While the pilots only have so much control over what regionals Delta uses, I believe you'll find many more former ASA pilots at Delta than Comair.

More endeavor than asa you think?

msprj2 03-21-2019 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2787129)
Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots care about Delta pilots.....

So they say, as long as it benefits them individually

Baradium 03-22-2019 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2787152)
More endeavor than asa you think?

I don't have total numbers, but that's very much true since the SSP started and continuing with the DGI.

theUpsideDown 03-22-2019 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2787647)
I don't have total numbers, but that's very much true since the SSP started and continuing with the DGI.

Pretty pathetic numbers for asa then, as its been near two decades since they took in Delta guys hu?

I think you mean well, but your optimism really isnt backed up by anything factual.


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