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Old 01-20-2022, 04:16 AM
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Retention. Talks started today.
Too little to late for many of us. There's a ton of SEP in the final awards for February. Company needs to work fast, but I'm out regardless. They'd have to pay off my house at this point haha
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:10 AM
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Also willing to bet it's probably less than the AA WO. Are they not seeing that money isn't keeping pilots at the regionals. Theres 8700 ish pilots that's going to be hired this year at the top carriers.
It's not about the bonuses. They'd have to pay enough in salary for people here to want to stay. I just don't think there is enough money for that.
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest View Post
Too little to late for many of us. There's a ton of SEP in the final awards for February. Company needs to work fast, but I'm out regardless. They'd have to pay off my house at this point haha
Hope everybody is enjoying their 3%+ pay cut (so far) this year...if only we had a Cost of Living Adjustment in our contract so when inflation goes up more than normal (because it always goes up when government idiots just keep printing money) that we got a kick-up to make our wages real for the economic reality.
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cantankerous View Post
It's not about the bonuses. They'd have to pay enough in salary for people here to want to stay. I just don't think there is enough money for that.
the regional model trades cheap labor for experience. It only works when people don’t have better options. A majority of the current regional workforce doesn’t need experience.

retention efforts are a lost cause and waste of resources. There may be a few people retainable at the margins but the losses are so far beyond sustainable it doesn’t matter.
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Old 01-20-2022, 08:03 AM
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Money is money and QOL is also important but how will they combat the lost seniority at a career destination such as an LCC. Seniority can be priceless especially in difficult times and that will be a tough sell. Unless they can make a regional good enough to be a career destination then there are few things they can do to make it worth it.
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Old 01-20-2022, 08:45 AM
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I think it's more about tying a bonus package together with the contractual relief they need to increase training capacity, rather than direct large salary increases. It won't stop people from leaving to career destinations, nothing can stop that, other than making mainline so attractive, causing people to want to wait for only Delta.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest View Post
Too little to late for many of us. There's a ton of SEP in the final awards for February. Company needs to work fast, but I'm out regardless. They'd have to pay off my house at this point haha
So you're saying theres a chance you would stay? 😂😂
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:37 AM
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So you're saying theres a chance you would stay? 😂😂

No chance, I’m out.
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:20 AM
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Nothing short of Delta seniority or an absolutely absurd amount of money will stop people from leaving for other carriers. I hope this is the death knell of the regionals.
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:34 AM
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Nothing short of Delta seniority or an absolutely absurd amount of money will stop people from leaving for other carriers. I hope this is the death knell of the regionals.
Agreed! So close to meeting mins for my dream airline and hopefully can say see ya! Money wouldn't keep me here at all..senority if think about it. Seniority and longevity now we are talking
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