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Old 01-30-2016, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dicec2 View Post
I get that there's agreements and all but when they tell me there's going to be "either a flow or guaranteed interview" by the end of the (last) summer and there still isn't anything a year later, you can tell me all day that you are "thinking" about it, but in the end it doesn't mean ****. A lie is a lie.
so let me get this straight... You have been here less than a year and are complaining that your move to mainline isn't quick enough? Is it just confusing with the SSP and like 5 other paths, and some without any guarantee path that doesn't make sense. Once the SSP ends, a single path going forward is the answer. The union voted down the last offer as it required 2 years as a CA. Why? Cause it required 2 years AFTER upgrade. Well what's the problem there? Because Alpa doesn't want an upgrade requirement. Meaning no anchors. SSP movement has the next 2 years of movement to DL locked up, so why lock it up further. Once again, relax. All is well for you and those around you and coming behind you. If you haven't figured it out yet, things are incrementally getting better. If you want to understand how bad things were, search back 2-3 years on pinnacle and endeavor threads. The SSP was the bargaining chip, and nobody is taking it off the table until it's bone dry and dead.
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Old 01-30-2016, 11:43 AM
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My main problem is being lied to. It's completely unacceptable and shows nothing but cowardice. And that goes for whenever you were hired here.
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Old 01-30-2016, 11:55 AM
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My main problem is being lied to. It's completely unacceptable and shows nothing but cowardice. And that goes for whenever you were hired here.
The only guarantees in life are death and taxes. The rest is risk and reward choices based on judgement, experience, and understanding. If you want to be at DL, endeavor is the best chance to get there. If you want to go with a "guarantee" I'd suggest running the math on how long that takes to become a reality.
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Old 01-30-2016, 11:59 AM
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Very poetic. Still doesn't cover the cowards who lied. I wonder why they think they can get away with that???
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dicec2 View Post
Very poetic. Still doesn't cover the cowards who lied. I wonder why they think they can get away with that???
Who and what lie are you talking about, specifically? What were you so promised that hasn't been delivered?
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:16 PM
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"either a flow or guaranteed interview" by the end of the (last) summer
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:24 PM
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My understanding was that GoJet bought these themselves. I could be wrong, but I think they were hoping to use the purchase to show growth and further spur hiring. I don't think it's worked out for them and now it may be worsening their already bad situation.
I too hope against pulling aircraft from another company, since it means gaining from the hardships of another pilot group. However I can see how it makes since from a business standpoint to shift labor from an unreliable source to a reliable one.
That sounds awfully similar to the stunts P.T. pulled with the Pinnacle CRJ-900 and Colgan Q400 fleets... you can see where those ended up in the dumpster of regional airline history.
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dicec2 View Post
"either a flow or guaranteed interview" by the end of the (last) summer
Quoted from where?
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Old 01-30-2016, 01:11 PM
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Very poetic. Still doesn't cover the cowards who lied. I wonder why they think they can get away with that???
Jesus, no one can respond to your claim in good judgement without actually hearing the same thing you did. I agree lying isn't cool, but are you sure that you heard them correctly at the interview? I haven't heard of the Endeavor pilot recruiting committee misrepresenting the interviewees? Not calling you a liar, but you're the first out of all the new hires I've met in the last year and a half. Additionally, anyone that has done their research of this industry, for say the last two decades, should know that it's extremely cyclical and unpredictable. There are no guarantees. And the word cowards is a really strong word to use on an anonymous forum!!!
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Old 01-30-2016, 01:18 PM
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Very poetic. Still doesn't cover the cowards who lied. I wonder why they think they can get away with that???
I guess this would be your first lesson on the regional game. Don't believe anything unless it is in writing and signed. Then wait for it to be thrown out in bk court!
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