Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
05-27-2016, 08:27 PM
#4902
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Depends how you define 'not that many'. I know of quite a few who have chosen to not pursue upgrade. Even if it were 50 to 100 pilots bypassing...that would mean the difference between our under 2 year upgrade now verses still having a most junior captain being at least a 5 year guy.
05-27-2016, 09:57 PM
#4904
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Originally Posted by Farmlover
It's not 50 or 100.
Endeavor is a good place to be, and I just recommended a guy to be hired who was recently hired.
The sales thing Farmlover and others pulled was eye rolling before, and now just as bad. Let the progression and bonuses stand for themselves.
DL mgmt is recognizing that they need to do something going forward for pilot staffing (you should see the daily scramble to cover 717 flying- the regionals cant fly it, the 717 cant fly it, the 737 cant fly it, the bus cant fly it......... so send a 757 there), and you guys are a part of an experiment on figuring out how to staff this thing.
As a side note, all ASA/Expressjet guys hired via the same DL testing that DL guys go through have been given guaranteed interviews as well.
How this plays out with the USAF running into short staffing will be quite interesting.
It's truly a total wild card going forward.
05-28-2016, 05:49 AM
#4905
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Your credibility would increase if you get better data to refute statements.
Endeavor is a good place to be, and I just recommended a guy to be hired who was recently hired.
The sales thing Farmlover and others pulled was eye rolling before, and now just as bad. Let the progression and bonuses stand for themselves.
DL mgmt is recognizing that they need to do something going forward for pilot staffing (you should see the daily scramble to cover 717 flying- the regionals cant fly it, the 717 cant fly it, the 737 cant fly it, the bus cant fly it......... so send a 757 there), and you guys are a part of an experiment on figuring out how to staff this thing.
As a side note, all ASA/Expressjet guys hired via the same DL testing that DL guys go through have been given guaranteed interviews as well.
How this plays out with the USAF running into short staffing will be quite interesting.
It's truly a total wild card going forward.
Endeavor is a good place to be, and I just recommended a guy to be hired who was recently hired.
The sales thing Farmlover and others pulled was eye rolling before, and now just as bad. Let the progression and bonuses stand for themselves.
DL mgmt is recognizing that they need to do something going forward for pilot staffing (you should see the daily scramble to cover 717 flying- the regionals cant fly it, the 717 cant fly it, the 737 cant fly it, the bus cant fly it......... so send a 757 there), and you guys are a part of an experiment on figuring out how to staff this thing.
As a side note, all ASA/Expressjet guys hired via the same DL testing that DL guys go through have been given guaranteed interviews as well.
How this plays out with the USAF running into short staffing will be quite interesting.
It's truly a total wild card going forward.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qHX493bB3U
05-28-2016, 05:58 AM
#4906
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 26
Anybody have good intel on a current Endeavor Gouge for FO position? I have an interview coming up soon.
I did an interview a while back with another Regional and it was as unprofessional as I could have imagined. So, I dont want to use that as a gauge because what I have seen so far is that Endeavor is much more professional.
I did an interview a while back with another Regional and it was as unprofessional as I could have imagined. So, I dont want to use that as a gauge because what I have seen so far is that Endeavor is much more professional.
05-28-2016, 06:06 AM
#4907
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Posts: 683
Originally Posted by Skybolt205wd
Anybody have good intel on a current Endeavor Gouge for FO position? I have an interview coming up soon.
I did an interview a while back with another Regional and it was as unprofessional as I could have imagined. So, I dont want to use that as a gauge because what I have seen so far is that Endeavor is much more professional.
I did an interview a while back with another Regional and it was as unprofessional as I could have imagined. So, I dont want to use that as a gauge because what I have seen so far is that Endeavor is much more professional.
05-28-2016, 06:24 AM
#4908
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Your credibility would increase if you get better data to refute statements.
Endeavor is a good place to be, and I just recommended a guy to be hired who was recently hired.
The sales thing Farmlover and others pulled was eye rolling before, and now just as bad. Let the progression and bonuses stand for themselves.
DL mgmt is recognizing that they need to do something going forward for pilot staffing (you should see the daily scramble to cover 717 flying- the regionals cant fly it, the 717 cant fly it, the 737 cant fly it, the bus cant fly it......... so send a 757 there), and you guys are a part of an experiment on figuring out how to staff this thing.
As a side note, all ASA/Expressjet guys hired via the same DL testing that DL guys go through have been given guaranteed interviews as well.
How this plays out with the USAF running into short staffing will be quite interesting.
It's truly a total wild card going forward.
Endeavor is a good place to be, and I just recommended a guy to be hired who was recently hired.
The sales thing Farmlover and others pulled was eye rolling before, and now just as bad. Let the progression and bonuses stand for themselves.
DL mgmt is recognizing that they need to do something going forward for pilot staffing (you should see the daily scramble to cover 717 flying- the regionals cant fly it, the 717 cant fly it, the 737 cant fly it, the bus cant fly it......... so send a 757 there), and you guys are a part of an experiment on figuring out how to staff this thing.
As a side note, all ASA/Expressjet guys hired via the same DL testing that DL guys go through have been given guaranteed interviews as well.
How this plays out with the USAF running into short staffing will be quite interesting.
It's truly a total wild card going forward.
80kts I have had a few mainline guys in the jumpseat recently including one who used to help with recruiting and they said the same thing about staffing. It's getting crazy out there. The ASA/XJT interview gives a few guys a shot, but I talked to an ASA Captain and was told that those that qualify for the interview amount to only a small portion of the pilot group there. At 9E I am starting to hear the words flow and/or staple being thrown around for the post SSP era, but I know how much to believe that. Supposedly from the mainline JSers I've had those terms are also being heard as being thrown around the mainline ranks. Personally, I'll only believe those things will happen if and when it actually happens.
05-28-2016, 01:50 PM
#4909
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Staffing is going to get really bad. About 1/3 of the pilots we hire now at 9E are military retirees getting currency, or their pension is good enough they want to stay here for the schedule.
I just don't see many of today's young people, who need instant gratification, going through the pilot process; Most certainly not to the standard any mainline wants especially Delta.
I just don't see many of today's young people, who need instant gratification, going through the pilot process; Most certainly not to the standard any mainline wants especially Delta.
05-28-2016, 04:48 PM
#4910
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Staffing is going to get really bad. About 1/3 of the pilots we hire now at 9E are military retirees getting currency, or their pension is good enough they want to stay here for the schedule.
I just don't see many of today's young people, who need instant gratification, going through the pilot process; Most certainly not to the standard any mainline wants especially Delta.
I just don't see many of today's young people, who need instant gratification, going through the pilot process; Most certainly not to the standard any mainline wants especially Delta.
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