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jpso 05-19-2020 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3059456)
Hes gonna start up the first Mars Fire Fighter Brigade.


Haha. I photoshopped a picture of him getting into an F16 when that story unfolded. Good times.

JonGoodsell764 05-19-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by jpso (Post 3060100)
Haha. I photoshopped a picture of him getting into an F16 when that story unfolded. Good times.

Leave it to Timmy Martins to unite this thread. What a saga! That was some of the best content on this forum of all time when Tim Martins was getting ran through the internet ringer. What a bozo.

PS would love to know who the ex edv guy who bought a Porsche after his type ride at Delta is:D

Air Stang 7 05-19-2020 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 3060148)
PS would love to know who the ex edv guy who bought a Porsche after his type ride at Delta is:D

It was Mister Bojangles.

theUpsideDown 05-20-2020 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 3060176)
It was Mister Bojangles.

Good lord lord wasnt another nickname was it? Maybe he will rap about furloug. He can finally grow out his stupid mohawk like mr T

Air Stang 7 05-20-2020 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3060561)
Good lord lord wasnt another nickname was it? Maybe he will rap about furloug. He can finally grow out his stupid mohawk like mr T

I was just kidding. I honestly have no idea what you guys are on about. I'm just here to troll.

Meow1215 05-20-2020 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 3060646)
I honestly have no idea what you guys are on about.

Same here, not a clue what/who this is about.

FlyJay 05-23-2020 02:29 PM

Any idea if Endeavor will be furloughing in October?

pad39a 05-23-2020 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJay (Post 3062663)
Any idea if Endeavor will be furloughing in October?

Your guess is as good as anyone’s. My crystal ball isn’t even willing to approach the subject.

JulesWinfield 05-23-2020 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJay (Post 3062663)
Any idea if Endeavor will be furloughing in October?

Probably
No one knows for certain.

flyguy727 05-24-2020 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJay (Post 3062663)
Any idea if Endeavor will be furloughing in October?


https://seekingalpha.com/article/4349678-american-airlines-first-to-go-under

HulkaBurger 05-24-2020 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy727 (Post 3062914)
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4349678-american-airlines-first-to-go-under

Seeking Alpha.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡

Meow1215 05-24-2020 11:27 AM

If, and big if - if AA files, it would be a reorganization bankruptcy. Not liquidation.

flyguy727 05-24-2020 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 3063126)
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4349678-american-airlines-first-to-go-under]

If, and big if - if AA files, it would be a reorganization bankruptcy. Not liquidation.[/QUOTE]

That is just as bad my friend, that means all contracts will be canceled, wages will go down, benefits will be eliminated, you can forget flows into AA.

ninerdriver 05-24-2020 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy727 (Post 3063304)
If, and big if - if AA files, it would be a reorganization bankruptcy. Not liquidation.

That is just as bad my friend, that means all contracts will be canceled, wages will go down, benefits will be eliminated, you can forget flows into AA.

9E pilots aren't really worried about the end of any flows to AA.

9E pilots should be worried that when​ AA files for Chapter 11, then every other legacy carrier (if not the majors as well) will follow suit in the next race to the bottom.

​​​​

ATOP40 05-25-2020 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3063345)
9E pilots aren't really worried about the end of any flows to AA.

9E pilots should be worried that when​ AA files for Chapter 11, then every other legacy carrier (if not the majors as well) will follow suit in the next race to the bottom.

​​​​

Never in the history of the airline business has wage and benefits been cut to bring a company back to profitability.

I can not remember a time in the history of the airlines that a contract has been thrown out and company imposed wages have taken place. If it has, it has been extremely rare.

Most airlines will likely not go bankrupt during this epidemic.

Dick Burns 05-25-2020 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by ATOP40 (Post 3063612)
Never in the history of the airline business has wage and benefits been cut to bring a company back to profitability.

Soooo.....Delta still has a pension?

ninerdriver 05-25-2020 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by ATOP40 (Post 3063612)
Never in the history of the airline business has wage and benefits been cut to bring a company back to profitability.

Have you seen our contract? LOA 33, in particular?

"WHEREAS, the Company and the Association have reached agreement in this 2012 Restructuring Letter of Agreement concerning amendments to their current joint collective bargaining agreement (the “JCBA”) and, as amended by this Restructuring Letter of Agreement, such modified agreement (the “Modified JCBA”) is in furtherance of the Company’s effort to successfully reorganize through the Chapter 11 bankruptcy process; and..."

Paid2fly 05-25-2020 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by ATOP40 (Post 3063612)
Never in the history of the airline business has wage and benefits been cut to bring a company back to profitability.

I can not remember a time in the history of the airlines that a contract has been thrown out and company imposed wages have taken place. If it has, it has been extremely rare.

Most airlines will likely not go bankrupt during this epidemic.




Might want to take a quick gander at the history of Frank Lorenzo and Carl Icahn...

pangolin 05-27-2020 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 3064022)
Might want to take a quick gander at the history of Frank Lorenzo and Carl Icahn...

Frank’s influence is alive and well today.

Paid2fly 05-27-2020 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3064984)
Frank’s influence is alive and well today.



Yup, he's still at it, making millions at the expense of others.
I think he destroyed more lives in the airline industry than any since then...

ninerdriver 05-28-2020 05:51 AM

Delta posted a new schedule yesterday. It actually looks a little more positive.

Next month's schedule adds a handful of flights back to our schedule for the last week of June.

July's first draft brings us about a 60% increase in the number of flights on a weekday, still primarily out of ATL, DTW, and MSP.

Here's the really interesting part. The July schedule also includes the first half of August... and August looks an awful lot like our schedules before Covid went down. It includes a return to regular ops at JFK and LGA; a ramp-up of service at ATL; CVG and RDU resuming as focus cities; and the 200 flying again in NYC, CVG, and RDU. The CM7s and CM8s return. DTW and MSP ops shrink a touch from July.

August has no service to secondary markets like HPN, MDW, or PVD, nor does it have any Mad Dog service. Thus, that August schedule wasn't just left over from the old schedules by mistake. It looks like the Delta plan (right now) is to spool us back up in August.

FlyJay 05-28-2020 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3065425)
Delta posted a new schedule yesterday. It actually looks a little more positive.

Next month's schedule adds a handful of flights back to our schedule for the last week of June.

July's first draft brings us about a 60% increase in the number of flights on a weekday, still primarily out of ATL, DTW, and MSP.

Here's the really interesting part. The July schedule also includes the first half of August... and August looks an awful lot like our schedules before Covid went down. It includes a return to regular ops at JFK and LGA; a ramp-up of service at ATL; CVG and RDU resuming as focus cities; and the 200 flying again in NYC, CVG, and RDU. The CM7s and CM8s return. DTW and MSP ops shrink a touch from July.

August has no service to secondary markets like HPN, MDW, or PVD, nor does it have any Mad Dog service. Thus, that August schedule wasn't just left over from the old schedules by mistake. It looks like the Delta plan (right now) is to spool us back up in August.

Thanks for the rundown. Any indication if DTW/MSP 200 flying will increase? It sounds like the 19 CRJ200s from OO are on 9E's certificate but may not be sent through conformity for awhile.

EDVPLT 05-28-2020 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3065425)
Delta posted a new schedule yesterday. It actually looks a little more positive.

Next month's schedule adds a handful of flights back to our schedule for the last week of June.

July's first draft brings us about a 60% increase in the number of flights on a weekday, still primarily out of ATL, DTW, and MSP.

Here's the really interesting part. The July schedule also includes the first half of August... and August looks an awful lot like our schedules before Covid went down. It includes a return to regular ops at JFK and LGA; a ramp-up of service at ATL; CVG and RDU resuming as focus cities; and the 200 flying again in NYC, CVG, and RDU. The CM7s and CM8s return. DTW and MSP ops shrink a touch from July.

August has no service to secondary markets like HPN, MDW, or PVD, nor does it have any Mad Dog service. Thus, that August schedule wasn't just left over from the old schedules by mistake. It looks like the Delta plan (right now) is to spool us back up in August.

I saw this as well but being very cautious with August actually staying like that. It seems like a huge jump but hopefully there are positive trends for demand we don’t see.

aviatore 05-28-2020 06:08 AM

Looks like Delta Retiree’s are getting S3A’s back; albeit 6 travel day passes a year. This will make for fun times I’m sure.
Maybe on the bright side mainline above wing employees won’t growl at us as much for merely existing as a detriment to their retired colleagues’ vacation plans.

aviatore 05-28-2020 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by EDVPLT (Post 3065437)
I saw this as well but being very cautious with August actually staying like that. It seems like a huge jump but hopefully there are positive trends for demand we don’t see.

Supposedly a large number of employees working in RES got the call to come back to work starting in June. Certainly related to increased demand.

EDVPLT 05-28-2020 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by aviatore (Post 3065447)
Supposedly a large number of employees working in RES got the call to come back to work starting in June. Certainly related to increased demand.

Yes but people were also on hold for 7+ hours so those 2000 should never have been gone with people waiting so long. But again hopefully this is a good sign but my home airport goes from 4x daily 717 to ATL to 9x daily 738 to ATL. So I am just being very cautious, seems like a huge jump.

Rayjay 05-28-2020 07:44 AM

So ALL Retirees will be S3A now? I’m sure they’re glad they got that back!

gojo 05-28-2020 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3065532)
So ALL Retirees will be S3A now? I’m sure they’re glad they got that back!

I don’t think they will have unlimited S3A’s

Rayjay 05-28-2020 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 3065568)
I don’t think they will have unlimited S3A’s

It’s not like no reving is worth anything now. I can’t even get to work with 70 open seats.

ninerdriver 05-28-2020 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJay (Post 3065431)
Thanks for the rundown. Any indication if DTW/MSP 200 flying will increase? It sounds like the 19 CRJ200s from OO are on 9E's certificate but may not be sent through conformity for awhile.

It doesn't look like that flying increases. There are 21 DTW 200 departures and 6 MSP 200 departures on the books for August.

pad39a 05-28-2020 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Rayjay (Post 3065589)
It’s not like no reving is worth anything now. I can’t even get to work with 70 open seats.

Your posts are so entertaining. You can’t get to work, even when the company is offering positive space seats to and from trips?

web500sjc 05-29-2020 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3065425)
Delta posted a new schedule yesterday. It actually looks a little more positive.

Next month's schedule adds a handful of flights back to our schedule for the last week of June.

July's first draft brings us about a 60% increase in the number of flights on a weekday, still primarily out of ATL, DTW, and MSP.

Here's the really interesting part. The July schedule also includes the first half of August... and August looks an awful lot like our schedules before Covid went down. It includes a return to regular ops at JFK and LGA; a ramp-up of service at ATL; CVG and RDU resuming as focus cities; and the 200 flying again in NYC, CVG, and RDU. The CM7s and CM8s return. DTW and MSP ops shrink a touch from July.

August has no service to secondary markets like HPN, MDW, or PVD, nor does it have any Mad Dog service. Thus, that August schedule wasn't just left over from the old schedules by mistake. It looks like the Delta plan (right now) is to spool us back up in August.


Flica alerts indicate flying has increased at the end of June. That’s the good news.


The bad news, if your finding out about increased open time via this post, it’s already been picked up.

mm01 05-30-2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3065425)
Delta posted a new schedule yesterday. It actually looks a little more positive.

Next month's schedule adds a handful of flights back to our schedule for the last week of June.

July's first draft brings us about a 60% increase in the number of flights on a weekday, still primarily out of ATL, DTW, and MSP.

Here's the really interesting part. The July schedule also includes the first half of August... and August looks an awful lot like our schedules before Covid went down. It includes a return to regular ops at JFK and LGA; a ramp-up of service at ATL; CVG and RDU resuming as focus cities; and the 200 flying again in NYC, CVG, and RDU. The CM7s and CM8s return. DTW and MSP ops shrink a touch from July.

August has no service to secondary markets like HPN, MDW, or PVD, nor does it have any Mad Dog service. Thus, that August schedule wasn't just left over from the old schedules by mistake. It looks like the Delta plan (right now) is to spool us back up in August.

Where exactly did you find that schedule? Just trying to compare pre-COVID vs August and I can’t find it anywhere on Deltanet

ninerdriver 05-30-2020 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by mm01 (Post 3067184)
Where exactly did you find that schedule? Just trying to compare pre-COVID vs August and I can’t find it anywhere on Deltanet

It was under Network Scheduling. It looks like they published a new July schedule on the 28th that removed all of the August schedules. So much for that, I guess.

JulesWinfield 05-30-2020 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3067286)
It was under Network Scheduling. It looks like they published a new July schedule on the 28th that removed all of the August schedules. So much for that, I guess.

They're still adjusting June schedules. August seems like.a lifetime away.

msprj2 05-31-2020 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1880960)
What's this I have been told that a check airman is saying that they are gearing up to bring back some -200s from the boneyard? Any rumor control on this subject?

Funny but sad how it goes full circle.

gojo 05-31-2020 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 3067550)
Funny but sad how it goes full circle.

True, where is that turkey talker now?

Meow1215 05-31-2020 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 3067660)
True, where is that turkey talker now?

He’s still banned sadly, maybe someday he will get paroled.

ASAPsafetyGUY 06-01-2020 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 3068059)
He’s still banned sadly, maybe someday he will get paroled.

Do not despair. The turkey man lives long and prospers, so I hear.

Sperrysan 06-21-2020 05:37 AM

Bump. Any latest and greatest out there for EDV?


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