flyingmau5

I got called in for a "test" flight on my P3 rsv to check on a pressurization issue an inbound crew had reported earlier on. This was after the last outbound/inbound EDV flight. So anomalies due happen, just not very often.

flyingmau5

We don't have a flow. You get a guaranteed interview with Delta. That's it.

A321gal

Could be true. I've friends in GRR and LAN, and some family in GRR, plan was to crash with someone and commute just for a bit (Envoy at DFW or ORD would have been more convenient for that honestly as the people that I'd crash with are in the actual city rather than a short commute) at least until I could find my own place. The drive from like Ypsilanti shouldn't be that far, and I wouldnt assume it'd be too expensive. Lansing and Grand Rapids are commute backups as literally the DTW-LAN flight spends more time taxiing at DTW than in the air (the 145 is utter hell as a passenger, pretty much had to crawl to my seat and would need to assure myself of an A seat so my head doesn't grind on the overhead)
I'm still a ways from applying, just trying to get some facts and plan and have contingency plans and everything.

jbizon

ORD is another one of those 30 minute flights from GRR. You have options. But things are going to keep changing until you're ready to apply. And I'm assuming you're young enough that no matter where you go you're going to have a promising career at the airlines. I wish Things were like they are today when I graduated. Good luck.

A321gal

So it's not a flow, but I assume it's easier to pass that point when you've flown for Endeavor. So I'd take it you'd need the degree then? Does Endeavor offer a program to help you get there? Or is that an on your own thing too?

A321gal

Yeah, I hit 22 in 2 months. A little later onto the scene that I wanted to be in all honestly, if I had known this was a direction I wanted to go (it honestly wasn't until the promises of decent pay showed up just recently) but to be honest I don't see where else I'd be if it's not in the cockpit. Delta is of course, the goal. Been a pretty loyal Delta customer when I can be, Dad is gold medallion, when I was 12 I said when it came time for me to get a credit card I wanted a SkyMiles Amex (still don't have it,) would love to see myself in the cockpit of a Delta plane. If it works out that I don't make it to Delta, oh well. I'll give it a go though.

I'm aware things will keep changing; I've always been a plan way ahead kind of person but then things go tits up at last moment and I have to improvise, so often I feel why bother?

flyingmau5

Yes, definitely NOT a flow.

The pass/fail rate of conditional job offers given to 9e pilots from Delta is quite horrendous. I'm not sure of the exact numbers but it is on average well below the 50% mark. The SSP program has been looked negatively upon if you ask most of the pilots here. The Delta Guaranteed Interview (DGI), which you will qualify for, might or might not have the same results. No one has gone through the process yet. Endeavor hold workshops from time to time to help prep you for the Delta interview. You also have to be a CA for 2 years to qualify for the DGI.

I personally don't see any advantage of an Endeavor pilot over any of the Off-The-Street (OTS) hires when it comes to interviews but you are guaranteed an interview which some may argue is the tough part of getting to Delta. If Delta is your goal, Endeavor will provide you the opportunity to interview to become part of the "Delta" family.

A321gal

Are you at least allowed to have another interview in a few months, or does that pretty much bar you from ever moving up to Delta? 2 years at captain is probably reasonable, no matter where you are it'd probably take a good 4-5 years at least to get the amount of PIC and turbine (depending on where you were pre-ATP) to have any major take a serious look at you.
Ok so I've gotten most of the acronyms down, being a military kid I'm used to them, but SSP, that one lost me.

flyingmau5

So you can come out of the Delta interview with one of the 3 following outcomes:

1) Yes. You get a CJO
2) No. Reapply in 6 months.
3) Double no. SSP no longer applies to you. Good luck applying as an OTS applicant.

Where it gets muddy is whether or not Delta will even look at you after getting the double no. You can still apply to Delta outside of the SSP.

SSP is the old program that came before the DGI. Everyone hired after 2014 are under this new DGI program. Essentially the same thing except for the 2 year CA requirement so the SSP had FOs had the chance of going to Delta.

A321gal

Double no being two successive failures or totally flunking the interview?