A321gal

Here's to hoping that it'll change in the next year or two. it'll benefit everyone involved, honestly. Delta gets more pilots moulded to their image and requirements, more Endeavor pilots will get to Delta easier and faster, which gets more FOs promoted and getting their raise, which attracts more pilots in the door. Definitely going to keep my eyes--and options--open.

Yumyum

Timing is everything in this industry...let's hope we continue on upward 👍

AnotherWriter

Anyone know if the mock shows CNO lines? Or are those added in after bids close properly?

seminolepilot

If I'm correct it does. The final CNO lines do come out on the 22nd after the regular lines come out.

higney85

Negative. 10char

AnotherWriter

Thanks!

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StrangeBrew

I was also told once that we also were waiting for the last JFK flight too. Walking around LGA on Saturday night is like being in that Langoleirs movie.

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higney85

Not defending anyone, but P3 can easily be converted into a legal overnight (with some restrictions) or a repo. Normally that takes being the random short straw or all kinds of delays hitting the fan, but legal and able to happen. Repo's between LGA and JFK can also occur (in either or both pathways) for a P3 and in that case a P3 is perfect as they rarely go smoothly for time.

Yea, not cool. But it's a possible and legal reality. Been discussed a bit, but that's a synopsis if there are no CDO's and you have P3 still assigned in either of the NYC spots.

higney85

CNO's on mocks used to be normal. Sometimes they occur, but it was found that some bidding CNO's wanted to see a mock prior to being blocked out. In the end? CNO's count toward reserve numbers in the overall numbers, so the main premise is to let everyone see what they can get and where reserve hits, and adjust for the final in best-case lines for each pilot in the seat. It was found that some would withdraw CNO bids and reserve would hit folks who thought they had lines, which skewed expectations. That may or may not make sense. In the end, (yes, bids are closed..) but bid what you want and not what you think you can hold and if close to reserve bid in both reg/reserve with CDO/CNO as you see fit. The "group of uncertainty" will always remain between the 3 bid scopes and CNO at the bottom end of base seniority. Bid accordingly going forward if in the "wave of what you might hold".

HighFlight

Yes. From 200 to 900, there is no seat lock, but from 900 FO to 200 CA, I believe there is a 1-year seat lock.