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Say delta takes all the regional flying in house tomorrow. You'd probably still fly the regional planes as long as you would have been employed at a regional, maybe 5-10 years if you're a civilian. But now when your number comes up to flying something bigger they pay you that 5-10 year rate for the bigger plane vs hiring you when they need you to fly the bigger plane at year one. Also , the longer they make us stay at the regionals , is that many less years of capped out pay. I say burn it down
You missed the whole point. What is the pay difference between year 10 and year 1 FO pay on the md 80 at big d?
Say delta takes all the regional flying in house tomorrow. You'd probably still fly the regional planes as long as you would have been employed at a regional, maybe 5-10 years if you're a civilian. But now when your number comes up to flying something bigger they pay you that 5-10 year rate for the bigger plane vs hiring you when they need you to fly the bigger plane at year one. Also , the longer they make us stay at the regionals , is that many less years of capped out pay. I say burn it down
Say delta takes all the regional flying in house tomorrow. You'd probably still fly the regional planes as long as you would have been employed at a regional, maybe 5-10 years if you're a civilian. But now when your number comes up to flying something bigger they pay you that 5-10 year rate for the bigger plane vs hiring you when they need you to fly the bigger plane at year one. Also , the longer they make us stay at the regionals , is that many less years of capped out pay. I say burn it down
I didn't compare it against all aircraft, just the 900 vs the 777. Comes to about $1.51 per person per hour. Don't flame me, just pointing out a metric, nothing more. It doesn't make any sense on the low end....after all, who would fly four private passengers in a private small twin for just $6/hour?
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You missed the whole point. What is the pay difference between year 10 and year 1 FO pay on the md 80 at big d?
Say delta takes all the regional flying in house tomorrow. You'd probably still fly the regional planes as long as you would have been employed at a regional, maybe 5-10 years if you're a civilian. But now when your number comes up to flying something bigger they pay you that 5-10 year rate for the bigger plane vs hiring you when they need you to fly the bigger plane at year one. Also , the longer they make us stay at the regionals , is that many less years of capped out pay. I say burn it down
Say delta takes all the regional flying in house tomorrow. You'd probably still fly the regional planes as long as you would have been employed at a regional, maybe 5-10 years if you're a civilian. But now when your number comes up to flying something bigger they pay you that 5-10 year rate for the bigger plane vs hiring you when they need you to fly the bigger plane at year one. Also , the longer they make us stay at the regionals , is that many less years of capped out pay. I say burn it down
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Position: Line holder, barely
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The difference now is military can skip the regional proving grounds and can go direct mainline (at least I think they can - maybe I'm wrong)
If there were no regionals, then military and civilian pilots would not be differentiated at mainline. Everyone starts at the bottom of the seniority list and moves up by attrition above at the same rate.
The difference now is military can skip the regional proving grounds and can go direct mainline (at least I think they can - maybe I'm wrong)
The difference now is military can skip the regional proving grounds and can go direct mainline (at least I think they can - maybe I'm wrong)
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I've seen people complain about CrewTrac before...i'm new to this program.
Just finished LOE and got assigned an OE trip. Scheduler said I could go into CrewTrac and look at it.
Logged in through chrome and at first got a red "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Later in the day I was able to login through chrome read my messages and clicked on my schedule and I get the "View Schedule box" that is not hyperlinked and a messge on the bottom:
Browser version/type is incompatible with this image information
So I try the whole operation in IE and I get "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Everything on my laptop is up to date and running Windows 10. Hopefully I don't need to run a virtual machine running XP just to view this thing...it didn't work on my phone either.
Just finished LOE and got assigned an OE trip. Scheduler said I could go into CrewTrac and look at it.
Logged in through chrome and at first got a red "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Later in the day I was able to login through chrome read my messages and clicked on my schedule and I get the "View Schedule box" that is not hyperlinked and a messge on the bottom:
Browser version/type is incompatible with this image information
So I try the whole operation in IE and I get "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Everything on my laptop is up to date and running Windows 10. Hopefully I don't need to run a virtual machine running XP just to view this thing...it didn't work on my phone either.
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I've seen people complain about CrewTrac before...i'm new to this program.
Just finished LOE and got assigned an OE trip. Scheduler said I could go into CrewTrac and look at it.
Logged in through chrome and at first got a red "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Later in the day I was able to login through chrome read my messages and clicked on my schedule and I get the "View Schedule box" that is not hyperlinked and a messge on the bottom:
Browser version/type is incompatible with this image information
So I try the whole operation in IE and I get "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Everything on my laptop is up to date and running Windows 10. Hopefully I don't need to run a virtual machine running XP just to view this thing...it didn't work on my phone either.
Just finished LOE and got assigned an OE trip. Scheduler said I could go into CrewTrac and look at it.
Logged in through chrome and at first got a red "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Later in the day I was able to login through chrome read my messages and clicked on my schedule and I get the "View Schedule box" that is not hyperlinked and a messge on the bottom:
Browser version/type is incompatible with this image information
So I try the whole operation in IE and I get "Internal DOTNET server error (WEBCTWC)" message.
Everything on my laptop is up to date and running Windows 10. Hopefully I don't need to run a virtual machine running XP just to view this thing...it didn't work on my phone either.
And for my phone I use opera.
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Position: B767 FO
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If there were no regionals, then military and civilian pilots would not be differentiated at mainline. Everyone starts at the bottom of the seniority list and moves up by attrition above at the same rate.
The difference now is military can skip the regional proving grounds and can go direct mainline (at least I think they can - maybe I'm wrong)
The difference now is military can skip the regional proving grounds and can go direct mainline (at least I think they can - maybe I'm wrong)
I'm military and I'm here too. Enjoying it and leaning a lot.
What often gets left out of the "military goes straight to a legacy" discussion is that those military guys are accumulating 10-20 years experience flying there which is similar (and different) to guys spending 10-20 years at a regional. It's not like they go to pilot training and then just get suddenly hired at a legacy.
While I'm sure thousands of pages are filled regarding those differences, I'm not interested in whether one is better than the other. Both routes have years and years of experience and sacrifice.
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