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Old 03-13-2018, 05:35 PM
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So we pass LOA91.... get industry leading pay... and now we’re paying for that. Now the company is decreasing our schedule efficiency to offset delays... AND... our FDP is going to start at forward wheel movement under our own power. Zero FDP for block out, wait for push, push, engine start, wait for LGA ground to clear you to taxi. SMH


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Old 03-13-2018, 05:38 PM
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So we pass LOA91.... get industry leading pay... and now we’re paying for that. Now the company is decreasing our schedule efficiency to offset delays... AND... our FDP is going to start at forward wheel movement under our own power. Zero FDP for block out, wait for push, push, engine start, wait for LGA ground to clear you to taxi. SMH


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When did this happen?
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:40 PM
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When did this happen?
Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what these fire breaks are?

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Old 03-13-2018, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Reserve King View Post
When did this happen?
If you’re asking about the schedule efficiency, read the union email from today

If you’re asking about FDP at forward wheel movement, I don’t think it’s started yet but it’s been mentioned by mgmt in recent RGS classes and also at LEAD18
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bar Harbor View Post
If you’re asking about the schedule efficiency, read the union email from today

If you’re asking about FDP at forward wheel movement, I don’t think it’s started yet but it’s been mentioned by mgmt in recent RGS classes and also at LEAD18
That’s crazy talk. Next we’ll be starting from wheels in wells. Not a good precedent at all. Door closed, brake released, clock starts.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:07 PM
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It SHOULD be... 45 mins prior, at the podium, time starts. Not too many jobs expect you to work for 1-1.5 hours before your pay starts.

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That’s crazy talk. Next we’ll be starting from wheels in wells. Not a good precedent at all. Door closed, brake released, clock starts.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgecrusher28 View Post
Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what these fire breaks are?



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An additional 60 minute sit on top of legal turn time in JFK and 50 minutes in LGA during specific times of day which is most of the day as specified in the union email. The point is to reduce downline delays from late arriving aircraft


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Old 03-13-2018, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Reserve King View Post
That’s crazy talk. Next we’ll be starting from wheels in wells. Not a good precedent at all. Door closed, brake released, clock starts.
Next thing they will our pay to start then also.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:14 PM
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It SHOULD be... 45 mins prior, at the podium, time starts. Not too many jobs expect you to work for 1-1.5 hours before your pay starts.


Agree, but in this case pay still starts at door closed and brake drop. It’s just your cumulative FDP block limits won’t be counting up until forward wheel movement. That could mean you could do an additional leg on a day when you would have timed out on block


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Old 03-13-2018, 06:39 PM
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Agree, but in this case pay still starts at door closed and brake drop. It’s just your cumulative FDP block limits won’t be counting up until forward wheel movement. That could mean you could do an additional leg on a day when you would have timed out on block


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Or sat for an additional fire break before last leg
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