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Old 04-17-2017, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs View Post
How is going from 317,000 to 260,000 an increase?
It's the new "modern math" they're teaching the kids in schools these days.

Actually I'm guessing that:
- the OP originally put "217,000", and then edited it;
- or John read it as "217,000" when it actually said "317,000".

Either way, I've spent more time on this thread than I should have.
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Old 04-17-2017, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
Actually I'm guessing that:
- the OP originally put "217,000", and then edited it;
- or John read it as "217,000" when it actually said "317,000".
The former is possible, but the latter more likely. I quoted him, and if he changed his post, I don't think it would have altered the quote. If the quote is correct, then I misread the numbers in his initial post.

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Old 04-18-2017, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
It's the new "modern math" they're teaching the kids in schools these days.



Either way, I've spent more time on this thread than I should have.
This the grease monkey section, nothing of any interest to a pilot here.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:47 AM
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I'm a Comm pilot/A&P, that does neither professionally currently. However, I'm in claims and talk/visit shops and operators on a weekly basis. Obviously I'm one of those rated airmen that is not actively in maintenance, and we have several other claims guys in our company that have A&Ps but don't work as one. I've also worked in the space industry building satellites, and that industry has tons of A&Ps no longer in aviation. In the field currently, I talk to maintenance managers that are dying for help, from large corporate iron down to entry level GA. They can't find A&Ps to save their lives. And boy, if you know avionics you can name your price. So the official numbers might say one thing, but on the ground the landscape is quite different, at least from my perspective. Ok, that's all I got, I'll extract myself from the running argument now.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:58 AM
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Ok, that's all I got, I'll extract myself from the running argument now.
There's no argument to be had. Your observation is quite correct, and there's no point arguing against the truth.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by geosync View Post
I'm a Comm pilot/A&P, that does neither professionally currently. However, I'm in claims and talk/visit shops and operators on a weekly basis. Obviously I'm one of those rated airmen that is not actively in maintenance, and we have several other claims guys in our company that have A&Ps but don't work as one. I've also worked in the space industry building satellites, and that industry has tons of A&Ps no longer in aviation. In the field currently, I talk to maintenance managers that are dying for help, from large corporate iron down to entry level GA. They can't find A&Ps to save their lives. And boy, if you know avionics you can name your price. So the official numbers might say one thing, but on the ground the landscape is quite different, at least from my perspective. Ok, that's all I got, I'll extract myself from the running argument now.
Thank you for the report. I am happy to hear that there are good opportunities for A&Ps that were displaced or unable to find gainful employment in the industry.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:57 AM
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Well I know we are hiring, We have even dropped the 6 year heavy jet experience requirement to
get hired. We don't start out at a great hourly rate but in 5 years you are at the leading pay rate in the industry
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Well I know we are hiring, We have even dropped the 6 year heavy jet experience requirement to
get hired. We don't start out at a great hourly rate but in 5 years you are at the leading pay rate in the industry
Mind saying who you work for? My son is working on his A&P through a high school tech program. Helping him work through possibilities and interested in what others think industry leading pay is? My background is mostly GA and corporate so always interested in opinions from other segments of the industry.
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Old 01-23-2018, 04:53 PM
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Mind saying who you work for? My son is working on his A&P through a high school tech program. Helping him work through possibilities and interested in what others think industry leading pay is? My background is mostly GA and corporate so always interested in opinions from other segments of the industry.
Top pay at majors is over $50/hr right now, which is better than doing it for the Walmart wages everyone else pays. Landing one of these jobs is like winning the lottery, there is no career ladder for mechanics. Aside from affirmative action quotas, hiring seems completely random. Airline maintenance was the most horrible six figure job that I have ever had. If the kid has a brain send him to college, don't waste it squirting grease.
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