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Old 07-07-2019, 10:00 AM   #61  
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I was a mechanic in the Army, worked in the trade for years after. Now work as a pilot. It is a fine trade with a lot of good people in it. I still run into guys I worked with over 2 decades ago who are still employed and happy with it, many making into six figures.
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Those who work at the large overhaul facilities have a job similar to factory work, doing tasks from work cards which can be tedious. Others work on live aircraft between flights which requires troubleshooting and a fix or MEL. I also spent some time as a mechanic who flew on the aircraft (they were old) in order to take care of anything that may come up.
Mechanics are not a different class of people than pilots, they just do a different job. Many worked carss. motorcycles or other equipment growing up and have a knack and love of working with their hands.
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I was a mechanic in the Army, worked in the trade for years after. Now work as a pilot. It is a fine trade with a lot of good people in it. I still run into guys I worked with over 2 decades ago who are still employed and happy with it, many making into six figures.
Kevbo sounds like someone full of sour grapes.
Those who work at the large overhaul facilities have a job similar to factory work, doing tasks from work cards which can be tedious. Others work on live aircraft between flights which requires troubleshooting and a fix or MEL. I also spent some time as a mechanic who flew on the aircraft (they were old) in order to take care of anything that may come up.
Mechanics are not a different class of people than pilots, they just do a different job. Many worked carss. motorcycles or other equipment growing up and have a knack and love of working with their hands.
There's definitely some venn diagram overlap between pilots and mechanics. I'd be right in the middle of that. But there are outliers in both camps who wouldn't fit in the other.
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There's definitely some venn diagram overlap between pilots and mechanics. I'd be right in the middle of that. But there are outliers in both camps who wouldn't fit in the other.
There may be a small overlap in culture between the upper mechanics and lower pilots. The level of skill required to get an instrument rating far exceeds anything that a mechanic has to demonstrate.
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This is why we need to discourage entry and participation until compensation is the only reason anyone is here. Pilots have a cornucopia of choices in life so money talks. Mechanics would otherwise be digging ditches, their treatment and pay is all the confirmation one needs. Never use "Pilot" and "Mechanic" in the same paragraph. Your superiors may start seeing you as superfluous help.
Digging ditches? Thats there only other option? What mechanics have you been around?

Where are the mainlines hiring there pilots from? I always find myself in the cockpit at some point during troubleshooting explaining aircraft systems on "their" airplane. Same with the pilots on the cargo side of things. Did they not go to ditch digging school?

I've never commented on an old, dead thread in my life but this thread is just obnoxious. Dont disagree that pilots deserve more in compensation but i laughed at alot of the replies in this thread, but then again its called airlinepilotforums.
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My dad is a mechanic, albeit primarily diesel instead of aircraft.

He also, incidentally, is a high school dropout. He's been turning wrenches for a living for nearly 45 years.

He's made a damn good career and income over the years despite a lack of formal education. Its been physically hard work, out in the elements, often by himself on large construction equipment...but on multiple occasions he's been cold-called and offered work by companies that recognize his experience. The last decade or so, he's been in more of a supervisory role...still changes plenty of tires and air lines and fluids, but personally rebuilds a few less Caterpillar engines each year.

My favorite quote of his is one that applies to both mechanics and pilots (and especially Captains) - "I don't get paid for what I do, I get paid for what I know."

A good mechanic/maintainer/technician/whatever is worth their weight in gold...but just like pilots, they're not all 'good'.
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Further extremes: I was asked one time why doctors get paid more than street sweepers. (This was noted in Cuba manual street sweepers with a broom get paid $30 a month because their job was outside and dirty. In Cuba doctors are paid $20 a month because it is indoors and clean.)

In that case I said it was more difficult to become a doctor, with lots of training and education. Few people could qualify. People’s lives are in the doctor’s hands. In contrast, just about anyone could push a broom, sweeping the streets. No real education or skill set. Many would qualify. Supply and demand are radically different. (Incidentally, lots of Cuban born doctors have fled to the US, they do not get paid enough in their home country.)

Please note, I am not comparing a pilot to a heart surgeon. Nor am I cheapening an aircraft mechanic to someone sweeping the streets with a broom. Aircraft mechanics are held in high regard by me. I appreciate their work.
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Digging ditches? Thats there only other option? What mechanics have you been around?

Where are the mainlines hiring there pilots from? I always find myself in the cockpit at some point during troubleshooting explaining aircraft systems on "their" airplane. Same with the pilots on the cargo side of things. Did they not go to ditch digging school?

I've never commented on an old, dead thread in my life but this thread is just obnoxious. Dont disagree that pilots deserve more in compensation but i laughed at alot of the replies in this thread, but then again its called airlinepilotforums.
Agreed. A good mechanic skillset is transferable across many sectors. Pilot? Not so much. And I'm an A&P/Commercial Pilot, albeit non-airline. In fact I spent time in the space industry with my A&P, building large communication satellites and could go back to that industry if the s*&*t really hit the fan for me. Sure, airline pilots get the glory, i get that. But good mechanics/tradesmen with good interpersonal skills and vision can go a long way.
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Digging ditches? Thats there only other option? What mechanics have you been around?

Where are the mainlines hiring there pilots from? I always find myself in the cockpit at some point during troubleshooting explaining aircraft systems on "their" airplane. Same with the pilots on the cargo side of things. Did they not go to ditch digging school?

I've never commented on an old, dead thread in my life but this thread is just obnoxious. Dont disagree that pilots deserve more in compensation but i laughed at alot of the replies in this thread, but then again its called airlinepilotforums.
I think an A&P certificate "can" open doors and lead to something in the right setting. My experience suggests its a minor consideration in any hiring decision. The value of an A&P is difficult to assess because there are very few instances where it is required by law. Basically to sign logbooks, its NOT required to perform work on aircraft. This loophole is utilized extensively throughout the industry. Additionally, I know that an A&P can be very easy to obtain depending on "who" you are. Experience requirements are purely subjective and testing is not comprehensive. In contrast, pilots have objective training, experience, and testing standards. An airline pilot has to meet ATP minimums, which are significant. An airline mechanic can be 18 without ANY formal education or directly applicable experience. Over time, its the basic standards that create unique demographics. Each one has certain expectations and there lies the the reason pilots make more!
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