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Blackhawk2ATP 07-11-2017 05:32 AM

Rotorcraft Transition advise through Envoy
 
Looking for some advise or any experiences of someone who is or has gone through the RTP with Envoy/PSA before jumping into the mix. All help would be greatly appreciated. Just an FYI, leaning towards Envoy and would 3.5 hrs. be to far to drive for a base?

Skid Mark 07-11-2017 05:26 PM

Dude... from one H-60 driver to another... your SA sucks.

Literally the first thread in the Envoy forum, immediately above yours, is the exact same question you are asking. Here's a link: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/e...envoy-psa.html

Blackhawk2ATP 07-12-2017 03:53 AM

Actually, I was looking for some information as to how the program is, going through the actual RTP not so much in the commuting aspect.
Just wondering how it has worked for others and if its the typical BS recruiting or factual based outcomes. So, that being said I would like some input from people who have actually been through the program and what their experiences where both positive and negative. Other than gathering all information available from Envoy and Coast Flight which I am doing I am searching for a actual pilot perspective.

Skid Mark 07-12-2017 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk2ATP (Post 2393118)
Actually, I was looking for some information as to how the program is, going through the actual RTP not so much in the commuting aspect.
Just wondering how it has worked for others and if its the typical BS recruiting or factual based outcomes. So, that being said I would like some input from people who have actually been through the program and what their experiences where both positive and negative. Other than gathering all information available from Envoy and Coast Flight which I am doing I am searching for a actual pilot perspective.

Then congrats, you've found an RTP guy. We're beginning to have our own small mafia-contingent in the company.

Most of your "how does this work" questions are pretty honestly explained in the company information, but if you don't trust them... I and a few dozen friends have come through the Coast/Envoy program and it was pretty much just as advertised.

I think Coast maybe bit off more than they could chew, and are a little backed up (especially for Multi-Engine training)... however it was all paid for. If you're a Navy guy I recommend just getting your Multi Add-on while you wait for a slot at Coast, it's faster and worth the money to do it at one of those "we guarantee your MEL add-on in 5 days for $2k" schoolhouses and then just rely on Coast/Envoy to cover the cost of the hour-building.

If you're an Army/Other guy... and you don't even have a PPL yet like some of them, then just wait until they can fit you in to the Coast schoolhouse and power through. Most guys get it done in a few months. The timeline they give you when you start is decently accurate...

I heard there was a slight issue with the GI Bill deciding they don't like paying for the training, so in case of any issue... Envoy is now giving you the $17k bonus when you start with Coast, to help defray temporary costs.

You will interview (HR only, no tech, no sim) and unless you're a tool... you'll get an offer of pre-employment by noon and then they'll fly you home.

Like I said, it's a pretty simple system... if you're on AirWarriors.com we have a whole thread/explanation on the tiny nuances... but there isn't much to nuance.

Hit me up in PM if you have any other specific questions... make sure to include your full name and e-mail so I can put in to get the recruitment bonus ;).

JOLLY 33 07-12-2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Skid Mark (Post 2393358)
Then congrats, you've found an RTP guy. We're beginning to have our own small mafia-contingent in the company.

Most of your "how does this work" questions are pretty honestly explained in the company information, but if you don't trust them... I and a few dozen friends have come through the Coast/Envoy program and it was pretty much just as advertised.

I think Coast maybe bit off more than they could chew, and are a little backed up (especially for Multi-Engine training)... however it was all paid for. If you're a Navy guy I recommend just getting your Multi Add-on while you wait for a slot at Coast, it's faster and worth the money to do it at one of those "we guarantee your MEL add-on in 5 days for $2k" schoolhouses and then just rely on Coast/Envoy to cover the cost of the hour-building.

If you're an Army/Other guy... and you don't even have a PPL yet like some of them, then just wait until they can fit you in to the Coast schoolhouse and power through. Most guys get it done in a few months. The timeline they give you when you start is decently accurate...

I heard there was a slight issue with the GI Bill deciding they don't like paying for the training, so in case of any issue... Envoy is now giving you the $17k bonus when you start with Coast, to help defray temporary costs.

You will interview (HR only, no tech, no sim) and unless you're a tool... you'll get an offer of pre-employment by noon and then they'll fly you home.

Like I said, it's a pretty simple system... if you're on AirWarriors.com we have a whole thread/explanation on the tiny nuances... but there isn't much to nuance.

Hit me up in PM if you have any other specific questions... make sure to include your full name and e-mail so I can put in to get the recruitment bonus ;).

Thanks for the information, well put.

arbalist1 07-16-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Skid Mark (Post 2393358)
Then congrats, you've found an RTP guy. We're beginning to have our own small mafia-contingent in the company.

Most of your "how does this work" questions are pretty honestly explained in the company information, but if you don't trust them... I and a few dozen friends have come through the Coast/Envoy program and it was pretty much just as advertised.

I think Coast maybe bit off more than they could chew, and are a little backed up (especially for Multi-Engine training)... however it was all paid for. If you're a Navy guy I recommend just getting your Multi Add-on while you wait for a slot at Coast, it's faster and worth the money to do it at one of those "we guarantee your MEL add-on in 5 days for $2k" schoolhouses and then just rely on Coast/Envoy to cover the cost of the hour-building.

If you're an Army/Other guy... and you don't even have a PPL yet like some of them, then just wait until they can fit you in to the Coast schoolhouse and power through. Most guys get it done in a few months. The timeline they give you when you start is decently accurate...

I heard there was a slight issue with the GI Bill deciding they don't like paying for the training, so in case of any issue... Envoy is now giving you the $17k bonus when you start with Coast, to help defray temporary costs.

You will interview (HR only, no tech, no sim) and unless you're a tool... you'll get an offer of pre-employment by noon and then they'll fly you home.

Like I said, it's a pretty simple system... if you're on AirWarriors.com we have a whole thread/explanation on the tiny nuances... but there isn't much to nuance.

Hit me up in PM if you have any other specific questions... make sure to include your full name and e-mail so I can put in to get the recruitment bonus ;).

Thanks for the info. I'm an Army guy getting ready to apply for RTP. How do the bonus' work? Do I give up the hiring bonus that Envoy advertises if I accept that $17k for expenses at Coast?

Taco280AI 07-16-2017 05:39 PM

You take the bonus and the $23k for training. The $17k they give you when you go to coast IS the bonus.

Are lots of great threads on here if you take the time to go through them.

Blackhawk2ATP 07-17-2017 01:24 AM

Also I believe you get another 5K depending on choice of airframe on day 1 of Envoy which is what they call indoc.. From the reading I've done that aircraft id the EMB 145. Which would actually be a bonus of 22,100

Skid Mark 07-17-2017 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk2ATP (Post 2395553)
Also I believe you get another 5K depending on choice of airframe on day 1 of Envoy which is what they call indoc.. From the reading I've done that aircraft id the EMB 145. Which would actually be a bonus of 22,100

Everyone gets the $17,100 bonus. Then anyone who selects a "legacy aircraft" [ie: NOT the 175] gets an additional $5k.

They're giving RTP guys the $17,100 check up front to defray costs now. When you complete at Coast, you'll get the $5k check the first pay-cycle after your Indoc week and selection.

[NOTE: Both checks are subject to immediate taxation, so expect your check to be for approximately 75% of the stated amounts, depending on your state/federal tax rates.]

tattooguy21 07-25-2017 06:22 AM

I got the quote to finish in 19 weeks (I haven't started.) My two friends down there completed the course with original timeline quotes of 14 and 15 weeks respectively, both finished at 20 and 26. That was in June. Maybe things are changing/getting better. But those are real people and real numbers.


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