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ParkingatMIA 09-05-2017 04:47 PM

Personal LOA
 
Was thinking of using PELOA to get back home and get the house ready for the hurricane. Is PELOA pay protected or can we use the hours from our sick bank to cover the lost hours?

Pedro4President 09-05-2017 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA (Post 2425558)
Was thinking of using PELOA to get back home and get the house ready for the hurricane. Is PELOA pay protected or can we use the hours from our sick bank to cover the lost hours?

PE is not pay protected. Sick time can ONLY be used when you are sick. Vacation time might/could be used but I wouldn't suggest it unless you really needed the money this month. (To get a vacation day you have to clear it through the CPO.)

Good luck hoping for the best down there.

bigtime209 09-05-2017 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA (Post 2425558)
Was thinking of using PELOA to get back home and get the house ready for the hurricane. Is PELOA pay protected or can we use the hours from our sick bank to cover the lost hours?

Where are you based?

RawHide 09-06-2017 02:31 PM

you can possibly if the CP approves get it later changed to pvd

ParkingatMIA 09-06-2017 05:39 PM

Dallas based.

Crew scheduling was able to remove me, they have it listed as a MA for now. I emailed the CPO to have them change it to PE. Luckily I've picked up a ton of OT this month so it won't be much of a problem. I'll have to see if they can give me the PVD though.

3GreenKSNA 09-06-2017 06:32 PM

All the best.

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Jersdawg 09-06-2017 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA (Post 2426233)
Dallas based.

Crew scheduling was able to remove me, they have it listed as a MA for now. I emailed the CPO to have them change it to PE. Luckily I've picked up a ton of OT this month so it won't be much of a problem. I'll have to see if they can give me the PVD though.

I get that it's probably not that big a deal, but that's not cool for them to code it as an MA. PG should have been the code. Best wishes.

HardLemonade 09-07-2017 06:51 AM

Those bastards in scheduling hand out MAs like a creepy guy hands out candy at a Chuck E Cheese. They gave me an MA the other day for not accepting a duty day extension. Straight to the Chief's office I go..and he laughed out loud as he removed the MA from my HI10.

Another tid bit I learned about scheduling: if you are on days off and have a trip on day 1, and you don't confirm said trip by 2100 they will just straight up remove the trip from your schedule and fling you back on RAP1 like a cheap piece of meat. Even if your sign in time is in the afternoon.

I called and went around in multiple circles with a scheduler over this. Apparently it's a new policy. Too many pilots weren't confirming their trips, forcing scheduling to call them at midnight. Ok...but that doesn't change anything if your sign in time is in the afternoon, right? Apparently that doesn't matter to scheduling. They just made this a blanket policy for anyone and everyone who doesn't confirm by 2100. The bastards.

Just a heads up. Oh, and good luck to all my brothers in South Florida. Keep us posted and let us know if there is anything we can do. I volunteered for those ferry/relief flights...stay strong.

Crawl 09-07-2017 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2426480)
Another tid bit I learned about scheduling: if you are on days off and have a trip on day 1, and you don't confirm said trip by 2100 they will just straight up remove the trip from your schedule and fling you back on RAP1 like a cheap piece of meat. Even if your sign in time is in the afternoon.

I called and went around in multiple circles with a scheduler over this. Apparently it's a new policy. Too many pilots weren't confirming their trips, forcing scheduling to call them at midnight. Ok...but that doesn't change anything if your sign in time is in the afternoon, right? Apparently that doesn't matter to scheduling. They just made this a blanket policy for anyone and everyone who doesn't confirm by 2100.

Nothing new about that. They did a similar thing to me a year ago... I proffered for a late starting 4 day and got it. Was planning to commute in the morning, but forgot to confirm the night before. I realized it after the proffering window closed and called scheduling at about 2200 and got the same response "sorry, you're RAP1 now" ...but the 4 day trip was still in open time. They wouldn't put it back on my schedule. I told them I won't be there for 4AM RAP because I commute and it's too late now, so go ahead and give me the MA now, or a trip I can actually cover...ran in circles a while longer, finally they agreed to give me a different trip that started later than 4AM so I could commute in, but still wouldn't give me the original trip I proffered for, even though it was still open! I don't get it.

Pedro4President 09-07-2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by HardLemonade (Post 2426480)
Those bastards in scheduling hand out MAs like a creepy guy hands out candy at a Chuck E Cheese. They gave me an MA the other day for not accepting a duty day extension. Straight to the Chief's office I go..and he laughed out loud as he removed the MA from my HI10.

Another tid bit I learned about scheduling: if you are on days off and have a trip on day 1, and you don't confirm said trip by 2100 they will just straight up remove the trip from your schedule and fling you back on RAP1 like a cheap piece of meat. Even if your sign in time is in the afternoon.

I called and went around in multiple circles with a scheduler over this. Apparently it's a new policy. Too many pilots weren't confirming their trips, forcing scheduling to call them at midnight. Ok...but that doesn't change anything if your sign in time is in the afternoon, right? Apparently that doesn't matter to scheduling. They just made this a blanket policy for anyone and everyone who doesn't confirm by 2100. The bastards.

Just a heads up. Oh, and good luck to all my brothers in South Florida. Keep us posted and let us know if there is anything we can do. I volunteered for those ferry/relief flights...stay strong.

The 2100 time has been around a couple years. New CAs find out pretty quick. There are many times people will proffer for a trip and not confirm a trip. They do this hoping to tweak the reserve list a bit so they won't get called out.

I'm not even sure if it's legal. Someone proffers for a late start and gets it. Goes out and forgets to confirm the trip now he is stuck back on a RAP 1 without sufficient rest. Now I know the 2100 isn't contractual because they can't change our schedule after 1700.


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