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Transition
Can someone, in plain English explain why everyone tells me to select transition and composite when inputting my bids? I've asked numerous pilots and can't get a straight answer. I am tired of getting screwed at the end of the month working 4 days, 1 day off the 2, 3 or 4 days on the backside.
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Originally Posted by HoustonPilot
(Post 2469980)
Can someone, in plain English explain why everyone tells me to select transition and composite when inputting my bids? I've asked numerous pilots and can't get a straight answer. I am tired of getting screwed at the end of the month working 4 days, 1 day off the 2, 3 or 4 days on the backside.
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Originally Posted by moon
(Post 2469981)
Don't know about composite, but transition is to pay protect yourself for anything they remove. Or that 7D they give you would be a free day for them.
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Originally Posted by HoustonPilot
(Post 2469984)
So I get paid for the 7 day conflict drop?
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Originally Posted by moon
(Post 2469987)
That is Correct.
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Originally Posted by HoustonPilot
(Post 2469989)
Ok, that makes it slightly better. Now, do i get paid on what was dropped or the greater of some arbitrary contract #.
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If there is a legality issue during transition and they need to drop something then you will only get paid for it if you selected “Y” to transition when you did your monthly bidding.
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
(Post 2470010)
If there is a legality issue during transition and they need to drop something then you will only get paid for it if you selected “Y” to transition when you did your monthly bidding.
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All the above is true, but to add to that.... From what I understand, selecting Transition allows scheduling to adjust your end of month / beginning of next month sequences to meet legality needs, if you have conflicting sequences. You will get paid for days dropped, if any. By not choosing Transition, you will fly the whole last sequence of the remainder month, and any conflicting sequence on the following month will be dropped, if legality becomes an issue. You will not be paid for the dropped days in this case.
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Originally Posted by HoustonPilot
(Post 2469980)
Can someone, in plain English explain why everyone tells me to select transition and composite when inputting my bids? I've asked numerous pilots and can't get a straight answer. I am tired of getting screwed at the end of the month working 4 days, 1 day off the 2, 3 or 4 days on the backside.
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What is a 7D day?
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Originally Posted by Seaplane
(Post 2470171)
What is a 7D day?
If you live in base it’s easy to almost double guarantee each month simply by bidding lines that create transition conflicts as well as creating situations where you are likely to time out your 100 hrs in 28 days. |
Originally Posted by havick206
(Post 2470174)
7 day conflict. You can only legally fly 6 days in a row. If due to transition they have you flying more than 6 in a row then there’s a 7 day conflict and crew scheduling will have to drop a day somewhere and still pay you for the dropped flying.
If you live in base it’s easy to almost double guarantee each month simply by bidding lines that create transition conflicts as well as creating situations where you are likely to time out your 100 hrs in 28 days. |
Originally Posted by havick206
(Post 2470174)
If you live in base it’s easy to almost double guarantee each month simply by bidding lines that create transition conflicts as well as creating situations where you are likely to time out your 100 hrs in 28 days.
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
(Post 2470183)
Do you know someone who has earned "almost double guarantee" in a month? I can't see how that would be "easy." I bet one would need to work very hard to achieve this. Please explain your reasoning.
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Bidding reserve I have never selected transition. I have often had a 7D conflict but I have never seen a reduction in pay. However after reading the contract it looks like I should not have been pay protected.
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
(Post 2470601)
Bidding reserve I have never selected transition. I have often had a 7D conflict but I have never seen a reduction in pay. However after reading the contract it looks like I should not have been pay protected.
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
(Post 2470183)
Do you know someone who has earned "almost double guarantee" in a month? I can't see how that would be "easy." I bet one would need to work very hard to achieve this. Please explain your reasoning.
It’s easy to play the game living in base. |
Originally Posted by havick206
(Post 2470644)
I regularly credit 130+ hours a month know of many others also getting the same credit hours or better. Living in base I still end up spending 12-13 days at home (2-3 of which are on IOE displacement however i know they can’t use me because i pick up OT on actual days off to create a 100/28 conflict as soon as i get displaced for IOE).
It's easy to play the game living in base. |
Originally Posted by Virga show
(Post 2470932)
I wonder if it would work the same in Australia flying helo’s? You could prob credit 150 hours every month out there
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Originally Posted by havick206
(Post 2470988)
Probably not. Pretty sure the currency there is in cartons of beer.
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
(Post 2470601)
Bidding reserve I have never selected transition. I have often had a 7D conflict but I have never seen a reduction in pay. However after reading the contract it looks like I should not have been pay protected.
I have 5 days reserve to end the month. On the day prior, I picked up OT. That SHOULD give me a 7 day conflict on the 1st of next month. I'm expecting to get a line next month. I'd like to guarantee I get that 1st off. If I select the transition option or don't select the transition option, what should I expect. |
Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 2483005)
You look like the right one to ask here based on this comment.
I have 5 days reserve to end the month. On the day prior, I picked up OT. That SHOULD give me a 7 day conflict on the 1st of next month. I'm expecting to get a line next month. I'd like to guarantee I get that 1st off. If I select the transition option or don't select the transition option, what should I expect. |
How would OT be treated on the transition if you picked up a trip that started at the end of one month but ran into another month? And how would selecting the transition option effect it either way?
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 2508732)
How would OT be treated on the transition if you picked up a trip that started at the end of one month but ran into another month? And how would selecting the transition option effect it either way?
This doesn't have much to do with selecting transition. Also, if someone knows the section of the contract I'm talking about please post. |
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
(Post 2508881)
Well depends on if you are on reserve or holding a line. If the month you are going into is a reserve month then you can either choose to treat it as a reserve day flying. You could also choose to "move" a day off on it so you could get the OT credit for them.
This doesn't have much to do with selecting transition. Also, if someone knows the section of the contract I'm talking about please post. |
Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 2508911)
I'm not on reserve anymore so I'm thinking in terms of line holders. Been reading the contract and haven't seen those questions answered. Just trying to figure out the best strategy for setting up the transition and much of what I've been told by the captains I've been flying with is not in line with what I'm reading in the contract (but the posts in this thread are MUCH closer which is why I'm asking here) and an email to union reps for clarification is going unanswered. The questions I asked regarding OT are the last bit of details I can't figure out.
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