Interview next week - Prior 121
 

I am prior 121 (XJT) and have an interview next week with Envoy. Got the interview through the abbreviated application process. From talking with recruiter, it sounds as if the interview process is mostly a "HR/does this person fit" evaluation. I am told there is no sim. I can't imagine it's that easy. Any experience / advice or where to find gouge for the interview?

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It's that easy. Make sure your interviewing for the high value aviator bonus before you get here. Don't pick the 175 in class. And go to endeavor instead. That should cover it.

https://www.aviationinterviews.com/ has gouges at a cost if you're really worried about it. It'll be less than a half hour, they just want to get to know you and make sure you're not someone they wouldn't want to fly with.

Some example questions that I can remember:

What makes a good captain?
What's your greatest weakness?
What does CRM mean to you?

The interviewer also brought up a WWYD scenario involving an issue requiring a write up at an outstation on the go-home leg, with some pressure from the captain to not follow SOP. The answer is obvious.

Even before the interview was pretty easy. HR standard stuff, a technical interview that covered mostly approach charts. Envoy is big on attitude and personality so if you are a decent hardworking individual you should be fine.

Also, go fly for Endeavor, you will make way more and won’t have your seniority pushed down in the next 6-9 months from all the people hired prior to you that don’t have the 121 time yet.

What's with the "Go fly for Endeavor" joke about? :D

Interview next week - Prior 121
 

It’s not a joke. Many Line pilots on property recommend going to EDV. NH Street CA are getting “up to” $45k. But what is the threshold requirement for the high end? What is the low end of that bonus? What is the median bonus that these prior 121 HVA pilots are getting?

This is why the UNION is important in keeping the company transparent, so many tactics being employed that are within the company’s legal rights to bring in more NH. But Long term we shall all experience the effects, including said NHs flooding the gates once on property.

With the competition for pilots increasing I’m happy to see classes filled. But our pilots on property are recommending EDV for great reasons. We enjoy our job and how the industry is improving and were making livable income now, yet we are a major part of bringing in a whole lot of revenue/profits not seen before in the industry for the company and our parent company. The grass is typically not always green on the other side, but in this case it is at Endeavor/Delta in how they take great care of their people leading the way First with their $80,000 bonus over 3-4yrs just a few yrs ago. Now the current pay rate increases (turning the temporary bonuses into hard pay rates). It’s not a joke at all.

We are disappointed Mgmt is not proactive in keeping Line Pilots competitive in pay rates, work rules, and Rsv rules like Long Call seen throughout the regionals industry now. Our Pay rates will increase when AAG believes ENY product has greater value and is more competitive than EDV, and others. Until then I won’t believe the cool-aid that we have a superior product.

Management said no raise as long as we are meeting hiring goals.

Yikes.

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So I should tell my brother to stay away from Envoy then?

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Yea, don't find the gouge, and find your way to Endeavour.

Unless you’re coming here just for the upgrade to LGA, I would stay away. It’s a mess. Even then, you can easily find a job with jus SIC time now or next year or two. There’s rumors of mass exodus due to the displacements, you don’t want to be at the bottom of a list now.

Correct. There are better options out there with more most likely coming. It that envoy is bad it’s just that there are way better places to be. This HVA program is going to **** a lot of people that hired into off in about 7 months.

Wow. I'll pass it along. HVA?

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HVA is High Value Aviator, someone who gets hired with a few hundred hours of 121 time. This is in contrast to the Low Value Aviators who have maintained their current employment for the past 2 - 30 years. In most cases, brand new High Value Aviators will earn more than Low Value Aviator captains who have been on property for several years.

That's kinda crappy. Wow.

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Envoy is cutting back on hiring in 2018 and with the lower pay why bother. Endeavor; great schedules, QOL and an average of 18 days off a month with industry leading pay by 25%. I wish I had selected them over Envoy.

Abandon ship 🚢

Definitely isn't too late. I'm sure you're junior enough that it might make sense to jump ship.

I have an interview in February and hopefully a class in March. Just can’t pass up $100k a year with OT and bonuses.

That's strong. Aren't classes about 3 months out? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.

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If you live anywhere in or around the Southeast, go to Endeavor. I’m leaving Envoy once my contract is up and going there. Makes no sense to drive 45 min to the airport, commute 2 hours for 20% less money. Most guys I know on the west coast are leaving to avoid a forced upgrade to NY. Can you imagine an LAX to NYC commute? Just shoot me. So anyone on the East or West coast should look elsewhere. If you live in ORD or NYC, Go get you some Envoy.