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Old 01-09-2018, 09:35 PM   #1  
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So, I am wondering how many 1000 hr. 121 pilots joined Envoy AFTER forced upgrades were announced and came here anyway to get the upgrade.

I guess we will see tomorrow or the next day. With this new "High Value Pilot" bait they are throwing out there it looks like those first forced upgrades could be off reserve by the summer or fall time. 27 reserve CA spots are currently there. If there is more than 20 each bid that comes out then they will move up the seniority list on the CA side pretty quick. I know LGA is growing and the reserve list may get longer.

Anyone in the recruiting department know how many prior 121 pilots we are poaching from other regional airlines? (Of which I do not approve.)
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Probably not many since 9E is doing the same and at way better pay rates. Also arenít forcing guys to NY.
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Also arenít forcing guys to NY.
Itís their largest base.
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:26 AM   #4  
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People have gotten ATL right away.
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:45 AM   #5  
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People have gotten ATL right away.
Can anyone with firsthand experience comment on the Dallas-ATL commute. Iíve read itís challenging, but between DAL and DFW there are a lot of options and with the second flight being positive space with Endeavor it doesnít sound that bad. Thanks.
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Itís official all qualified first officers have been awarded captain most through forced displacement. The only question left is how close to 1000 hours are the 2016 hires.
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Dec 2016 hire at 400, I know some with less and some with around 500 in that class as well. My question is, how senior am I as an FO? Is there an easy way to look up how many FOs still arenít qualified and are also above me in DFW? Maybe the interactive seniority list once itís updated, but Iíd want to know before the monthly bid.
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Just ran into a bro from my April 2016 class at the hotel in XNA, heís 50 hours shy of 1000 121. Many FOs will become draftable in the near future.
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What's amazing is how senior the "Not Enough Bids" displacement went. #218. The company has dug themselves quite a hole.
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Hi guys, would you mind sharing some advice from your experience and some of your coworkers?

I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.

The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.

Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?

I am open for suggestions
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