How many hours are you flying
 

I'm just trying to get a feel for the amount of flying you will get from each base. I have heard that DFW based pilots are getting about 20 hours per month, but LGA based are getting to fly about 80 per month.

What kind of flight hours can be expected at each base?

As little as possible. Getting displaced rocks. :)

Are you talking about being on reserve? Lineholders don't fly 20 hours per month unless they drop trips (which never get approved), call in sick, or as the previous poster said, get displaced. I'm not sure what the average line value at DFW is, but it's well over minimum guarantee of 72 hours/month.

As a lineholder in ORD I am always over guarantee, and then have the option to pick up OT. I have flown 95 hours some months and as little as 35 others. It all depends on how much you want to work.

Is this pretty consistent across the company? How much does this differ based on base, seat, equipment etc.?

145 FO, ORD. I can agree with MD-11, only thing to add is OT was a little more scarce this month (makes sense with flying being down overall this time of year).

In DFW 170 the OT is kinda ugly...3 hour 2 days...is the OT situation any good at other bases?

Less than 25 hours a month on reserve in ORD 145 FO. I flew ~15 hours in December

That’s good to hear. I’ve been reading here about lines that barely meet min guarantee and not being able to pick up extra flying and that kind of concerned me. Im looking at an April class date and that is probably one of my biggest concerns so far about Envoy. Just trying to get in and fly to boost the resume.

LGA FO - flown roughly 850 hours since March 2017

On the 175 last year I averaged about 60 flight hours a month, went on reserve starting January, I’m at 10 hours and hope to keep it around that for the rest of the year

I think there is a race to be at the bottom of the flight time list.

And it will stay that way until changes are made. Don’t worry though, high value aviators are inbound to save the day!

Yup. I am not upgrading until I want to upgrade. This mandatory stuff is for the birds. I have a good QOL and make decent money, so once the summer is over, then maybe I will allow myself to pass 1000 hours. Fix the reserve system and maybe I will think about it.

Congratulations on working hard and getting paid the same as everybody else.

How do you figure? Credit hours and hours flown are significantly different as you would know yourself.

I think I’ve averaged about 78 actual Flight hours a month, credited an average of 120-130 a month. Only once went down to min days off, most other months I’ve had 12-13 days at home which includes picking up some OT. Admittedly living in base makes life a lot easier as it doesn’t really matter when you start or finish.

I’m not talking about credit vs actual time flown. I’m talking about getting 850 hours in less than a year of flying. Most of the people on here would consider you working your A$$ off or you must really want to upgrade.

How does that equate to working more for the same pay as per your previous post? That just doesn’t add up.

Because I flew 365 hours in a year including lots of overtime and got paid the same or close to the same as you. Hence the 75 hour of pay we get each month no matter what flying we do, plus any Overtime BUT I ONLY FLEW 36 hours that month you flew 78 actual hours in the airplane I flew 36 but we both made at least 75 hrs guarantee

That still doesn’t add up. How many hours per month do you credit on average?

Average around 95 to 100 maybe more pending on how much OT is available. I understand because you hold a line you can have more days off and therefore pick up more OT than someone on reserve but at the end of the day while your getting 120 hours of credit and I’m getting 100 hours of credit, I’m only Flying 36 hours total that month while if your flying a line you are probably do 75-80 hours of flying plus any overtime you pick up on the side. All I’m saying is while you are working to get the 120 hours of credit I’m sitting at home and working 3-4 days a month as a senior FO on reserve getting close to 100 hours of credit.

Teach me the ways Obi Wan.

Your math is still off. I’m only ACTUALLY flying total 77 average hour per month INCLUDING the OT I pick up and crediting an average of 120-130 hours a month. I’m also getting 12-13 days on average at home (that I can’t be called in for).

You’re obviously not at LGA either because the most senior FO on reserve in LGA is seniority 1770 something (probably hired 6-8 months after me) and getting used for stby or flying regularly. So if I bid a reserve line in LGA I’d spend more days AT work for much less credit hours being called in all the time.

Not only is your math off, but you’re also comparing different bases with much different usage of reserve bodies. I’m guessing your base, senior FO’s on reserve won’t get called in at all hence the desire to bid a reserve line.

That all being said I don’t quite understand why you feel the need to disparage someone for wanting to uograde and get some PIC jet time and move on to other things? Not everyone is locked in to flowing to AA that works at Envoy, there’s a whole wide world of different options for employment. If you personally plan to sit at home on reserve and cherry pick OT on your days off then good for you, I’d rather be doing that on CA’s wages if I’m going to be called in to sit STBY anyway at LGA.

Your both right

What is second year CA pay again?

$21 less an hour than a Captain at Endeavor makes.

So $71

And only $8/hr more than an FO at EDV makes.

Bingo. Depressing. Good for them though.

Disgusting and nothing is being done about it! Email union and management. Make voice heard.

As a mid to upper 1/3rd of the list FO on the 175 in DFW in December i worked three times, two of those I profered for as I was bored. That total was 27 hours. In September I only did 18. Living in base makes being a sand bag on reserve highly tolerable. Viva dinero con no trabajo.

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Do we even have senior fos anymore? Or senior mean a few months on property?

Well, at least until this latest flow plan is complete.

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