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CrowneVic 02-25-2018 05:40 PM

Envoy Article in Zerohedge
 
Interesting read.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...rican-airlines

bigtime209 02-25-2018 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by CrowneVic (Post 2537137)

Nothing new. It's still a regional airline. They can try to glamorize it by flashing the AA name around, but it's still a regional.

mainlineAF 02-25-2018 06:55 PM

They’re unskilled labor at a regional airline. That’s the unfortunate reality.

Subpilot 02-25-2018 07:32 PM

I wouldn’t call working with SABRE an unskilled job. Also, you couldn’t pay me enough to deal with the passengers in the way they must.

bigtime209 02-25-2018 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Subpilot (Post 2537207)
I wouldn’t call working with SABRE an unskilled job. Also, you couldn’t pay me enough to deal with the passengers in the way they must.

Yeah, well up until recently you had highly skilled pilots coming to work for regionals for peanuts. The supply finally influenced the demand in recent years to shift the pay. Unfortunately, there is no real supply problems on finding people off the street that will come and learn SABRE for measly pay and AA flight benefits. And with pilot costs going up and up and up, I don't see them raising the pay of other positions any time soon.

SonicFlyer 02-26-2018 09:22 AM

What kind of progressive drivel is this?

As long as they have qualified people applying, then they are not paying too low.

pitchattitude 02-26-2018 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2537594)
What kind of progressive drivel is this?

As long as they have qualified people applying, then they are not paying too low.

This. ^^^

Oh, wait. I thought you were talking about pilots.

Well, the company’s thoughts are the same for every labor group.

Inop2 02-26-2018 12:00 PM

Do regional gate agent really make 50% of mainline? If so, is there a gate agent shortage at mainline? Whats the justification to pay them more? Don’t regionals fly 50% of the flights per day?

NoValueAviator 02-26-2018 02:25 PM

Regional flyer pay overhead is subsidized by the promise of lazy days watching a machine fly itself for banker bucks at the majors, "paid in experience." What compels someone to be a gate agent and endure more seething contempt from strangers day-to-day than a police officer in a vibrant inner-city I cannot imagine.

SonicFlyer 02-26-2018 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2537887)
What compels someone to be a gate agent and endure more seething contempt from strangers day-to-day than a police officer in a vibrant inner-city I cannot imagine.

Many are part time and almost all do it for the flight benefits.


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