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DocRumack 03-11-2018 09:19 AM

Training Tips Please
 
Hi guys,

I’m about to get a training date for my CTP-ATP (week 0) and then kickoff with the actual training (week 1). Couple of questions:

1. How conflictive is spending 2 weeks studying the shepard only to get ground school and sim training before the test which can get on the way of my written preparation?

2. Where can I get specifics abut the course asap? I have no glass nor turbine experience so I gotta lot to cover. I recently started reading The Turbines Pilot’s Flight Manual. Though a great book I’d like more specific stuff about the E145 which would most likely be the assigned A/C.

3. Could you guys please go over the non-training stuff, like the hotel, laundry, eating options, is breakfast included, gym facilites (if any), possible training locations, etc. Pretty much anything I can get familiarized with before arriving for boot camp so I can focus on the more technical stuff right away.

Thanks in advance.

BigZ 03-11-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by DocRumack (Post 2548436)
Hi guys,

I’m about to get a training date for my CTP-ATP (week 0) and then kickoff with the actual training (week 1). Couple of questions:

1. How conflictive is spending 2 weeks studying the shepard only to get ground school and sim training before the test which can get on the way of my written preparation?
I read this twice and still not sure what you are asking. I do suggest chilling a bit though

2. Where can I get specifics abut the course asap? I have no glass nor turbine experience so I gotta lot to cover. I recently started reading The Turbines Pilot’s Flight Manual. Though a great book I’d like more specific stuff about the E145 which would most likely be the assigned A/C.
Don't worry about it. You will have CBTs and systems class. Once you have access to the docs, read aom1 and 2. Don't worry about any of it now. Flip through the turbine pilot manual though, it's a good book

3. Could you guys please go over the non-training stuff, like the hotel, laundry, eating options, is breakfast included, gym facilites (if any), possible training locations, etc. Pretty much anything I can get familiarized with before arriving for boot camp so I can focus on the more technical stuff right away.
Search the Envoy forum by "pink slip", show posts. One of the results from mid last year has a very detailed write up there. Your most likely atp/cpt hotel has breakfast and basic groceries right next to it. Indoc hotel does not have free breakfast, hotel shuttle can take you to a nearby walmart
Thanks in advance.

See above in bold

Sheg0theD 03-11-2018 09:59 AM

Here a tip...

http://www.endeavorair.com/pilots


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FO Candidate 03-11-2018 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Sheg0theD (Post 2548454)
Here a tip...

Become an Endeavor Air Pilot


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lol provided you can wait till fall for training.

DocRumack 03-11-2018 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2548448)
See above in bold

How will the week 0 of training affect my written preparation? Ideally it'd be better to study the shepard and take written right away, Of course this is not possible. So basically that leaves me with having to go thru the all the questions again during week 0 on top of the ground and sim sessions right?

BigZ 03-11-2018 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by DocRumack (Post 2548471)
How will the week 0 of training affect my written preparation? Ideally it'd be better to study the shepard and take written right away, Of course this is not possible. So basically that leaves me with having to go thru the all the questions again during week 0 on top of the ground and sim sessions right?

Week 0 is atp/cpt. Relax and watch 4 days of airliner crash videos. Then 3 days of playing around in the sims
You will have plenty of time in the process to flip through Sheppard.
Normally you'd take your written on Monday after week 0.
If your week 0 and 1 are back to back, you will take your written after week 1. Week 1 does have an exam at the end, but it isn't exactly rocket surgery.

But seriously - chill.

DocRumack 03-11-2018 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2548488)
Week 0 is atp/cpt. Relax and watch 4 days of airliner crash videos. Then 3 days of playing around in the sims
You will have plenty of time in the process to flip through Sheppard.
Normally you'd take your written on Monday after week 0.
If your week 0 and 1 are back to back, you will take your written after week 1. Week 1 does have an exam at the end, but it isn't exactly rocket surgery.

But seriously - chill.

lol thanks. Guess u can sense the anxiety but I'm also very excited. Just reading about turbines is pumping me up. If motivation is crucial, then I should be ok.

Inop2 03-11-2018 01:28 PM

Training is about learning the materials as they are presented to you by Envoy and PASSING the test. Stay in step with what’s going on at the moment and don’t get a head! Also, don’t attempt to learn everything there is to know about the airplane right now, just what you’re testing on. Download the Quizlet app and search for Envoy and the material you are studying. Example- Envoy E175 Limitations. This is about eating an elephant 1 bite at a time.

bourbon scamp 03-12-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2548488)
Week 0 is atp/cpt. Relax and watch 4 days of airliner crash videos. Then 3 days of playing around in the sims
You will have plenty of time in the process to flip through Sheppard.
Normally you'd take your written on Monday after week 0.
If your week 0 and 1 are back to back, you will take your written after week 1. Week 1 does have an exam at the end, but it isn't exactly rocket surgery.

But seriously - chill.

Yeah what he said basically. A lot of us continued studying for the Sheppard Air test during ATP/CTP, as it's mostly crash videos and retired mainline guys telling stories from their career. You have all the way up until your checkride to take the written but there's no excuse not to do it right after the ATP course. Once you are regularly scoring 90+ on the practice exam you're good. Re: the ATP/CTP sims, if you are new to jets you'll get a ton out of the sim sessions, at least I did. Have fun and relax.

Podrick 03-12-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by DocRumack (Post 2548436)
Hi guys,

I’m about to get a training date for my CTP-ATP (week 0) and then kickoff with the actual training (week 1). Couple of questions:

1. How conflictive is spending 2 weeks studying the shepard only to get ground school and sim training before the test which can get on the way of my written preparation?

2. Where can I get specifics abut the course asap? I have no glass nor turbine experience so I gotta lot to cover. I recently started reading The Turbines Pilot’s Flight Manual. Though a great book I’d like more specific stuff about the E145 which would most likely be the assigned A/C.

3. Could you guys please go over the non-training stuff, like the hotel, laundry, eating options, is breakfast included, gym facilites (if any), possible training locations, etc. Pretty much anything I can get familiarized with before arriving for boot camp so I can focus on the more technical stuff right away.

Thanks in advance.

Like others said, atp-ctp isn't something to worry about and not something you need to study for. You could easily use that week to go through sheppard air at night after class.

Definitely don't worry about anything aircraft specific.

Best piece of advice I have is show up to systems with your limitations already memorized, that way you'll have more time to study for systems and procedures. But don't worry about this until after indoc.

Welcome

TheRaven 03-12-2018 08:15 PM

If you want to help yourself out in training, make sure you show up with the fundamentals.....how to read an approach chart, how to enter a holding pattern, continuing below minimums, etc. they’ll teach you what you need to know about flying a 145, CArJ, or 175 the way they do it, but don’t have time to teach you proper holding pattern entry or how to read a Jepp Chart,

in2deep 03-14-2018 06:37 AM

Just finished training and my throughts were...”huh? Thats it?” I was a piston driver who hasn’t flown any actual IFR in 2 years, although i had plenty of glass experience.

Once you get through the door on day one, you will realize that no one else has any ****ing clue what they’re doing either. Once you finish indoc, you’ll have an idea on how to proceed.

Once you get your materials, read AOM2 cover to cover and the AOM1 General section 20 times. The systems classes are hit or miss. I found self studying that stuff was more helpful.

A couple people in my class had to take the written...study sheppard during week one and take the test that weekend if you can. After that it would become a huge headache.

E175 Driver 03-14-2018 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by in2deep (Post 2550322)
Just finished training and my throughts were...”huh? Thats it?” I was a piston driver who hasn’t flown any actual IFR in 2 years, although i had plenty of glass experience.

Once you get through the door on day one, you will realize that no one else has any ****ing clue what they’re doing either. Once you finish indoc, you’ll have an idea on how to proceed.

Once you get your materials, read AOM2 cover to cover and the AOM1 General section 20 times. The systems classes are hit or miss. I found self studying that stuff was more helpful.

A couple people in my class had to take the written...study sheppard during week one and take the test that weekend if you can. After that it would become a huge headache.


Yup thats It! Did you get the E145?

in2deep 03-14-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2550764)
Yup thats It! Did you get the E145?

I got the Crj


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