Fopuddle

FLEET : slight growth in 2018 and 2019
CRJ 700 : 22
Fleet to be progressively removed, at about 2 per month, by the end of 2019
EMB 140/145 : 109
About 50 Previously placed in storage aircrafts to be added throughout 2018
EMB 175 : 44
25 aircrafts to be added. 10 in the last quarter of 2018 and 15 starting April 2019.
About 60 options left. No official decision yet.

BASES :
CRJ 700 : ORD
EMB 140/145 : ORD, NYC ( co domicile LGA / JFK), DFW, MIA
EMB 175 : ORD, DFW
No official word on future bases

PAY :
FIrst Officer :
year 1 - 38$, year 2 - 40$, year 3 - 41$, year 4 - 42$, year 8 - 48$
Retention bonus of 2500$ per quarter after first year.
Sign-on bonus of up to 22000$, which requires a 2 year commitment.
Captain :
year 1 - 65$, year 2 - 67$, year 3 - 69$, year 4 - 71$, year 12 - 90$
Sign-on bonus of up to 45000$ for Direct entry captain. This requires at least 950 hours of part 121 experience
Perdiem :
1.90$ per hour on duty
Starts when signing in for the trip. Sign in is 45 minutes prior to departure.
Ends 15 minutes after blocking in from the last flight of the trip.
A four day trip earns 65 to 80 hours of perdiem.
401K :
company match 50% up to 6%
Medical :
Available as a shared cost between the employee and the company
If the employee’ spouse is on the plan but could have insurance elsewhere, there is a 100$ premium per pay period.
Additional bonuses :
Profit sharing is paid during the first quarter of each year. It is based on a portion of the yearly profits of AAG.
Quarterly performance bonuses are paid the following month. It is based on on-time performance and completion factor system wide. Pilots can earn up to 100$ a month.
Guarantee :
Pay is for 100% of awarded line, including OT, reassignments, cancellations, and junior man. It is based on the greater of either scheduled or actual block hours ; on a leg by leg basis.
It excludes negative trip trades, drops or missed assignments ( commute issues )
Paychecks are on the 15th of the month and on the last day of the month. The first check is for half of the monthly guarantee of the month. The second one is for the other half, plus both perdiem and hours above guarantee from the previous month.
Additional benefits :
Pilots assigned NYC as a base will, for three months, be given positive space to and from work between trips or block of reserve days. They will also have unlimited commuter hotels.
Under regular circumstances and for other statuses, pilots are allowed 4 paid commuter hotels per month.

UPGRADE :
Current upgrade pace has changed dramatically in the past year. Envoy went from 6-7 years upgrade to virtually be as soon as a pilot gets on property.
For a zero part 121 experience pilot, he/she will need to reach 950 hours as a first officer to be awarded an upgrade. It takes about a year and a half. Currently, due to a shortage of captains, Once he/she has the hours, he/she will be automatically sent to upgrade class. This is authorized by a “standing vacancy” LOA. Pilots currently do not have the option to bypass upgrade and the LOA could force a pilot to upgrade into a status ( base, airplane ), regardless of preference. If a pilot is displaced, he/she is not locked into the status and therefore can bid for other statuses. When he/she can hold that status, he/she will be awarded it. A first officer should plan on having a short amount of time to learn the company policies and how to operate safely and legally in the 121 world. They should ask questions or seek advices from experienced pilots every time they re not sure about something ( DTG, MTX procedures, releases ( bingo fuel, alternates... )
For a pilot with previous experience and hired as a direct entry captain, a captain status will be awarded in new hire class.
Any pilot awarded a captain seat, not in line with seniority, should plan on being on reserve for a few months. Essentially any senior pilot on the list, who finally reaches the 950 hours required to upgrade, will have priority in choosing a status and will automatically go on top of more junior pilots in that status.
The junior captain base is the embraer 140/145 in NYC.

SCHEDULE :
Minimum guarantee is 72 hours ( 3.7 hours per day ) for line holders and 75 hours for reserve holders ( 3.9 hours per day )
Minimum guarantee days off are 11 days.
Currently, a newhire first officer, can expect to be off reserve in just a couple months, regardless of base or airplane, with possibly the exception of the CRJ.
Schedule bidding happens between the 15th and 20th of each month.
Lines can be 1,2,3 or 4 day trips. The cadance mostly doesn’t change throughout the month.
Most trips have two or three days off in between. The EMJ schedules also have CDO lines.
Block of reserve days are mostly 4 to 5 days followed by 2 to 3 days off.
First day of reserve block has a company pre assigned status. Usually a 4 am on call, called reserve availability period. If senior enough, a pilot can proffer and be awarded something else. Reserve proffering takes place between 10am and 2pm central time everyday. The award takes place at 5 pm central time for the following day. Proffering can include 2 hour short call, airport standby or any open trips.
RAPs ( reserve availability period ) are on call duties of 16 hours. Call out is 2 hours.
Airport standby are 8 hours duty period.

FLOWTHROUGH :
The flowthrough agreement provides envoy pilot with a direct path to mainline American Airlines. The transition is seamless. No additional interview required. Essentially, the years spent at Envoy serve as a lengthy selection process.
Currently, as of may 2018, 10 year envoy pilots are flowing. By the end of 2019, pilots flowing will have been on property at Envoy, since 2011. This would put the flow to around 8 years. Based on union projections, a pilot hired in 2017 would flow around 2025. This puts the flow around 8 years for current new pilots. The company has been more optimistic and suggests it will take about 6 years.
The flow rate varies depending on date of hire.
For pilots hired before the 11th of October 2011, envoy will send a minimum of 29 pilots per month, to AA or 50% of available slots ; whichever is greater.
For pilots hired between the 11th of October 2011 and the 23rd of December 2014, envoy will send a minimum of 15 pilots per month, to AA or 35% of available slots ; whichever is greater.
For pilots hired after the 23rd of December 2014, envoy will flow pilots to match the lesser of
a) 25% of all AA training slots in that calendar year or
b) five new hire training slots ( increased by one for every 125 pilots above the base number of 480 on the seniority list ) multiplied by the number of calendar months in that calendar year.

Just trying to have a fact based thread about Envoy to help people decide whether or not this is the place for them to come work for.
I am a 8 year captain. I have seen this company and industry drastically change in the past 2 years.
I have no axe to grind. I am not here to sell anything. I am not here to encourage anyone to come here nor am i here to deter anyone from joining our ranks.
My opinion doesnt matter which is why i have no intention on giving it.
Any questions are welcomed.
Anyone who wants to answer any questions asked on this thread should try to keep it fact based.
It offers a lot more help to people than the endless bickering found on a lot of threads.

EmbaeDriver

Thankssssss

aero77

Thank you for taking the time to type this when not required to do so. Can you explain the possible exception for reserve time on the CRJ?

Fopuddle

The crj is a little tricky to figure out. Over the past few years, the projection of the size of the fleet has changed frequently. Therefore the number of pilots to staff the plane changed just as often.
Depending on how quickly the planes are transferred to PSA, the pilots on it might see very little movement.
It is possible that, on the FO side, if a pilot is at the bottom of the list, and there are very few new hires added on the list, then the current fo list would shrink as the fleet shrink. This would possibly leave the bottom guys on reserve for quite a while.
The only way to avoid reserve is :
A) senior guys bidding reserve or
B) junior guys assigned to the status.

BigZ

It is currently 8 months due to the shrinking fleet and sporadic trickle hiring into the CRJ

SilentLurker

Few loaded questions come to mind.

1. When does it start?

2. Where do FOs who have 950hrs+ find Standing Vacancies (SV) results? Will Training dates be on Flow Plan?

3. How often are SV award results: continuous, weekly, bi-weekly, monthly?

***4. Are SV awarded new CAs seat locked? ***
Since it’s a Preference Bid (3P) to activating a SV right? Anyway to avoid a seat lock?

Kapache007

What is the monthly hours flown like for E145 LGA based pilot?

- Also if I am looking to be based in NYC fly 1000hrs a year and get my Turbine PIC asap with flow as a plan B would Envoy be a good choice?

- I am new to the game ATP student, but what you guys think of the Envoy cadet program. Sounds like a good deal of more than likely I will end up at envoy anyways.🤔

bigtime209

If you want to be based in NY, your best options are Envoy and EDV. If you want the flow in your back pocket and don't mind NY, go with Envoy. If you don't care about flow, then go to EDV for the pay and QOL. If you're sure you want to go to Envoy, then the Cadet program is good because it gives you first pick of base/equipment as a new hire. But if you want to be based in NY, first pick of base/equipment isn't that valuable since NY is the last choice anyway.

Pedro4President

Lga/jfk has the best lines in the system.

Good plan.

Cadet program is nice if you are going to go to Envoy.

Fopuddle

A lot of good questions. As of right now, we dont have much more info then what was given to us by email, from the union.

Here is what the union said :

"The gist of this LOA is that once a vacancy bid is awarded and final, an FO who reaches 950 hours and desires to invoke his rights under the standing vacancy bid can volunteer for any vacant and unfilled captain slots left over from the vacancy. The standing vacancy will remain open until the next vacancy is posted.

Standing vacancies will be processed according to:
First-come, first served
In order of seniority if submitted at the same time
Bid award will be based on date the company receives bid
Pilot will be notified
Captain awards via the standing bid will be slotted into training behind pilots awarded captain on the regular vacancy (with the same current and next status)"

It does say that a pilot would volunteer, therefore i would venture to guess that a pilot would be seat locked.
As soon as we have more info, i will do my best to provide some answers.