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Originally Posted by moon
(Post 2635633)
Personally they stagnated my career 3 years. That's money lost. Time at home gone. Do I blame the people going there now? No. But those hired in Late 13 and 2014 knew exactly what they were doing and who they were screwing and I don't think that should be forgotten.
Buy accepting that contract, not only did they literarily screw over Envoy directly, but set the tone for the whole regional network that is just now recovering. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 2635647)
Yeah exactly. I find out longer term guys/gals ask when the person was hired. If it was in the last few years, generally no fault is placed on that person. However, if they were hired back prior to 2015 there is a some strong animosity towards that individual, rightfully so.
Buy accepting that contract, not only did they literarily screw over Envoy directly, but set the tone for the whole regional network that is just now recovering. |
Originally Posted by FullThrust
(Post 2635670)
Holding a grudge against PSA is the biggest waste of energy. If they voted it down, someone else would have gotten the planes. That is why falling on the sword at the regional level historically has never worked; there are simply too many other companies out there willing to do the work. Does it suck? Yes, but that’s just the nature of the beast. A few years from now, no one will remember this Envoy/PSA “beef”. It’s no different than GoJet/TSA, Freedom A-listers/MESA, etc. People forget and move on to majors.
And pretty sure there is still bad blood between TSA and GoJet. Neither PSA or GoJet pilots are scabs in the traditional sense of the word, but someone willing to screw someone else over to promote #1 isn't someone I want to be around. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 2635647)
Yeah exactly. I find out longer term guys/gals ask when the person was hired. If it was in the last few years, generally no fault is placed on that person. However, if they were hired back prior to 2015 there is a some strong animosity towards that individual, rightfully so.
Buy accepting that contract, not only did they literarily screw over Envoy directly, but set the tone for the whole regional network that is just now recovering. I don't think anyone should feel obligated to keep track of this, but if you don't put any pressure at all on scabs you're gonna get more scabs, and not just at the regional level. |
What happened to the potential lawsuit that was brewing a few months ago about the difference of DOH? A group of pilots sought representation to stop their flow.
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From what I’ve been told, todays NH class had about 15 total and 3 DECs.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2635768)
This seems like a reasonable approach to me. Why extend professional courtesies like jumpseats and water bottles to someone who tried to tank your career over a few Bombardiers?
I don't think anyone should feel obligated to keep track of this, but if you don't put any pressure at all on scabs you're gonna get more scabs, and not just at the regional level. There is a distinct difference in crossing a line, and having a pilot group vote in a contract. |
Originally Posted by FullThrust
(Post 2635870)
And the more often you use this term incorrectly, the more watered down it gets and you get less overall understanding across the regional industry of what it means to actually cross a picket line.
There is a distinct difference in crossing a line, and having a pilot group vote in a contract. |
I interviewed in March. Got a class date (mid August) nearly two months after I interviewed. Seems to be taking quite a while.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2635880)
Except the feds don't allow strikes anymore. Times change.
Who was the last regional carrier to strike? Comair? Frontier voted 100% but are not released yet to strike. Good luck getting the authorization to strike in this day an age. We won’t see scabs anymore. Not in my generation. Too many weak back bones. Nobody will toe the line, respond to “CALLs TO ACTION” write to their government representatives or support PACs. A lot of weakness & selfishness in this new generation. Majority us don’t care about the past, and that is sad. |
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