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grumpydwarf 08-01-2018 03:53 PM

If I quit
 
I come from a military helo background and came in under the RTP. I quickly realized that this isn't for me, to the point that I am just miserable. I have learned that I am not the only one either; other RTP guys are contemplating leaving as well.

If I quit, I have to repay the bonus and training costs, so how hard does Envoy come after you for that? Will they work with you at all?

Houpilot2001 08-01-2018 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by grumpydwarf (Post 2646930)
I come from a military helo background and came in under the RTP. I quickly realized that this isn't for me, to the point that I am just miserable. I have learned that I am not the only one either; other RTP guys are contemplating leaving as well.

If I quit, I have to repay the bonus and training costs, so how hard does Envoy come after you for that? Will they work with you at all?

Get the lube ready. I know a few who have left and they received the letters within 30 days. I've never followed up with them as to if they actually pursued it but they are asking for it back at least. (This was about 15 months ago atleast)

havick206 08-01-2018 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by grumpydwarf (Post 2646930)
I come from a military helo background and came in under the RTP. I quickly realized that this isn't for me, to the point that I am just miserable. I have learned that I am not the only one either; other RTP guys are contemplating leaving as well.

If I quit, I have to repay the bonus and training costs, so how hard does Envoy come after you for that? Will they work with you at all?

What was the timeframe for repayment? Can you drop orders to see this period out, and then quit after you come back for a month or so?

FullThrust 08-01-2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2646958)
What was the timeframe for repayment? Can you drop orders to see this period out, and then quit after you come back for a month or so?

I believe it is 100% if you leave prior to a year and 50% if you leave between 1 and the start of year 2. That 50% might be prorated by month. I can’t recall.

wiz5422 08-01-2018 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2646958)
What was the timeframe for repayment? Can you drop orders to see this period out, and then quit after you come back for a month or so?

You signed a contract....took money, got ratings etc. Honor it.

TiredSoul 08-01-2018 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2646972)
You signed a contract....took money, got ratings etc. Honor it.

This ^^^^......

grumpydwarf 08-01-2018 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2646972)
You signed a contract....took money, got ratings etc. Honor it.

I'm all about honoring a contract, that's why I'm asking about repayment time and terms. I'm not looking to cheat my way out of the deal. This just isn't for me and I'm sure you wouldn't want to fly with someone who is unhappy with the lifestyle and counting the days until they can leave.

Whiskey4 08-01-2018 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by grumpydwarf (Post 2646930)
I come from a military helo background and came in under the RTP. I quickly realized that this isn't for me, to the point that I am just miserable. I have learned that I am not the only one either; other RTP guys are contemplating leaving as well.

If I quit, I have to repay the bonus and training costs, so how hard does Envoy come after you for that? Will they work with you at all?

They will likely work with you, but don’t expect a discount. Companies who let people off the hook on contract obligations get abused.

Your comment about others also planning to leave is concerning. I will grant that you need to look out for you and your family. But it just sucks because enough people quitting mid-contract will likely ruin the RTP opportunity for others who hope it will be there when they are ready to make the jump.

Anyways, I’ve always found this job to be a pretty good one. Far from perfect at the regional level, but I’ve worked office jobs, labor jobs, management jobs, etc. outside of the airlines/aviation. I was home more nights in those jobs, but I was always tied to a time clock, a cell phone, a crappy cube, or dealing with employee issues. This beats the pants off of all that.

Have you reached out to people on the forum, or others who have made it work for more than a decade waiting to flow or go to another career job? Perhaps they have some advice, of can help you better utilize the contract to make it more palatable.

If you hate it though...probably best to leave. You don’t want to spend life being miserable at work.

bigtime209 08-01-2018 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by grumpydwarf (Post 2646930)
I come from a military helo background and came in under the RTP. I quickly realized that this isn't for me, to the point that I am just miserable. I have learned that I am not the only one either; other RTP guys are contemplating leaving as well.

If I quit, I have to repay the bonus and training costs, so how hard does Envoy come after you for that? Will they work with you at all?

Life's too short to be miserable. Just out of sheer curiosity, what about the whole deal is making you the most miserable? Is it an Envoy specific/company problem or is the airline lifestyle in general? Or is it C). All of the Above?

EmbaeDriver 08-01-2018 06:52 PM

Wait the 2 years then quit


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