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NoValueAviator 08-23-2018 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2660389)
Sources say he didn’t got fired. He had a meeting with the chief pilot and a union guy was there with them.

For being too fly?

Also, can anyone with firsthand experience with Warren weigh in? Heard he counts every missed day of a trip as a separate sick call that requires a separate doctor's note.

Jersdawg 08-23-2018 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2660866)
For being too fly?

Also, can anyone with firsthand experience with Warren weigh in? Heard he counts every missed day of a trip as a separate sick call that requires a separate doctor's note.

I’ve never been asked for a doctors note by the ORD CPO. I’ve been out sick somewhere in the 9-12 days range total in the rolling year. YMMV.

NoValueAviator 08-23-2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2660891)
I’ve never been asked for a doctors note by the ORD CPO. I’ve been out sick somewhere in the 9-12 days range total in the rolling year. YMMV.

Guess I'll have to see for myself next time I catch some godawful bubonic plague from AA's passengers.

It's remarkable just how many chief pilot horror stories there are floating around.

Skip0927 08-23-2018 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2660866)
For being too fly?

Also, can anyone with firsthand experience with Warren weigh in? Heard he counts every missed day of a trip as a separate sick call that requires a separate doctor's note.

I have a hard time believing this. Obviously our company doesn’t function on a logical wavelength, but this is still a little beyond what I would call AAG logic....

WesternSkies 08-23-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Skip0927 (Post 2660960)
I have a hard time believing this. Obviously our company doesn’t function on a logical wavelength, but this is still a little beyond what I would call AAG logic....

Are the chiefs bypassing flow or with the flow are is your company churning through chiefs?

havick206 08-23-2018 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2660949)
Guess I'll have to see for myself next time I catch some godawful bubonic plague from AA's passengers.

It's remarkable just how many chief pilot horror stories there are floating around.

I’m sorry but all of the CP horror stories you hear are almost always unjustified. Ie there’s always more to the story that you’re not told by the person that is on the receiving end.

in2deep 08-23-2018 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2660891)
I’ve never been asked for a doctors note by the ORD CPO. I’ve been out sick somewhere in the 9-12 days range total in the rolling year. YMMV.

Likewise. I’ve called out sick for 2 consecutive days and didn’t hear a thing about it...and i’m on probation.

Crazy in a job like this that regards safety so highly while working in one of the filthiest workplaces, being sick is so frowned upon. It seems like I catch something every month now.

HobGoblin 08-23-2018 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2660866)
For being too fly?

Also, can anyone with firsthand experience with Warren weigh in? Heard he counts every missed day of a trip as a separate sick call that requires a separate doctor's note.

Lmao that’s BS and you know it.

flydpaarrow 08-23-2018 09:10 PM

Damn Chavez is a good dude

Cyio 08-24-2018 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2660866)
For being too fly?

Also, can anyone with firsthand experience with Warren weigh in? Heard he counts every missed day of a trip as a separate sick call that requires a separate doctor's note.

Yeah I feel this is made up. I have heard many horror stories about chief pilots but I have not experienced this yet. Never had an issue with him due to a fatigue call or any sick calls.

If anything, it is crew scheduling that you need to verify with. They will often mark each call in as one event unless you tell them to consider the whole or partial trip as one event.

You cant legally be punished for using a sick call, assuming you are actually sick. In fact, the law in most states says that your employer can ask for a sick note if they are complying with your disability or you are calling out sick more than three days in a row, BUT, they must do this equally across the board.

In this case, it is clear that the company doesn't ALWAYS ask for a doctors note when people call off a trip sick, so they cant legally require just a random person to do it, unless of course this became a recurrent or abusive way of getting out of work.

Bottom line, if you are sick, call in sick. I dont want to catch whatever you have.


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