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DreadWing 10-19-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2694014)
Now if he’s getting in trouble because of the rap video mentioned... I get that and understand why the company has issues.

That just makes me want to see this (apparently) forbidden fruit JUST THAT MUCH MORE.

I heard the company didn't give a flounder until several of US went to management in protest of the RAP rap video...which is an EXTRAORDINARILY unprecedented move...

highfarfast 10-19-2018 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by DreadWing (Post 2694445)
I heard the company didn't give a flounder until several of US went to management in protest of the RAP rap video...which is an EXTRAORDINARILY unprecedented move...

I have not seen it. As I said before I haven’t followed any of his stuff. If this is how it went down, our pilots shouldn’t be doing this to our pilots. I hope this isn’t true.

NoValueAviator 10-19-2018 07:16 PM

I know the Union put something out recently reminding guys not to immediately narc on their coworkers to management/CPO for any real or perceived deficiency, but although I've asked around for examples no one seems to know of any.

uavking 10-19-2018 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2694616)
I know the Union put something out recently reminding guys not to immediately narc on their coworkers to management/CPO for any real or perceived deficiency, but although I've asked around for examples no one seems to know of any.

Use Pro Standards within the union folks, it’s as simple as that. That’s how things are handled here, and at every other ALPA carrier. This, of course, assumes that you’ve tried addressing the issue with the individual in question first...

ItnStln 10-20-2018 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by DreadWing (Post 2694445)
That just makes me want to see this (apparently) forbidden fruit JUST THAT MUCH MORE.

I heard the company didn't give a flounder until several of US went to management in protest of the RAP rap video...which is an EXTRAORDINARILY unprecedented move...

I wish I downloaded it because it was entertaining.

Ijustlikeflying 10-20-2018 08:48 PM

No one should be turning people into management. That’s ridiculous, I don’t care how upset you are. Everyone here has spent their entire life to get here, so don’t possibly ruin someones career just because of something you don’t agree with. Let the union handle it...

DreadWing 10-21-2018 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying (Post 2695100)
No one should be turning people into management. That’s ridiculous, I don’t care how upset you are. Everyone here has spent their entire life to get here, so don’t possibly ruin someones career just because of something you don’t agree with. Let the union handle it...

I can't speak authoritatively as to the veracity of what I've heard, so I make no guarantees that's actually what happened.

It's entirely possible that union channels of grievance were used for conveying this "complaint" to MANAGEMENT.

SOMEHOW, though...if that's REALLY the way it went down...it STILL feels like filthy business.

For the record, though: don't take this as an "endorsement" of RAP rap videos and the like...my concern is ENTIRELY with the notion of our comrades having *something* to do with drawing the attention of management (if true) to one of us because they don't "approve."

DreadWing 10-21-2018 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2694953)
I wish I downloaded it because it was entertaining.

Maybe I can find this lad and compel him to show it to me!

ItnStln 10-21-2018 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by DreadWing (Post 2695293)
Maybe I can find this lad and compel him to show it to me!

He seemed cool and I liked his videos because he taught you the way things worked. The rap video was a little over the top, but overall I liked his videos. There was another that was taken down in the past that he did. If I recall correctly it was startup to taxi on the E175.

SilentLurker 10-21-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2694590)
I have not seen it. As I said before I haven’t followed any of his stuff. If this is how it went down, our pilots shouldn’t be doing this to our pilots. I hope this isn’t true.



Very much agree with you. Sad to say I believe is what went down. I can picture many would turn in a fellow pilot to the CPO before speaking to that FO professionally or ALPA. Some of these same CA’s talk about folks behind their back and will smile in that person’s face, yet say nothing.


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