Envoy Air don’t come here
06-11-2019, 09:50 PM
#591
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Posts: 2,035
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Oh Dera isn’t in bed with them, he’s on the counter, the hood of the car, the backseat, the dressing room, everywhere that he can get him some Envoy lovin’.
Watch out he might tattle on you...
06-12-2019, 01:41 AM
#592
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
Actually, the idea is to get better work rules with the pay. The company wants to advertise better pay rates, having those lower than competitors is bad for recruiting.
However, our real need is in the work rules. Soft pay, duty rigs, min day pay, reserve rules, pay protection, etc. Those are the things that will actually put more money in our pockets and improve QOL. But the new guys showing up to class don't know what those things mean.
Just changing the hourly rate doesn't cost the company that much. Paying guys 4 hours for every lost day and similar work rules at other regionals would be a huge win for this pilot group. I will be disappointed if we only get a simple pay raise.
However, our real need is in the work rules. Soft pay, duty rigs, min day pay, reserve rules, pay protection, etc. Those are the things that will actually put more money in our pockets and improve QOL. But the new guys showing up to class don't know what those things mean.
Just changing the hourly rate doesn't cost the company that much. Paying guys 4 hours for every lost day and similar work rules at other regionals would be a huge win for this pilot group. I will be disappointed if we only get a simple pay raise.
06-12-2019, 09:15 AM
#595
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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2
What if we don’t do anything? Just ride this out as the lowest paid until recruiting obviously will take a huge hit. Can the company force some mediocre pay rates on us?
06-12-2019, 09:47 AM
#596
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Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy
My understanding is that they’re already trying to force some mediocre pay rate on us but the union won’t accept it until something better is offered. Since negotiations appear to be at a standstill (I’m actually not 100% sure what’s going on with negotiations since the union won’t communicate anything) I would assume we’re riding this out now and not doing anything as we speak.
“in the coming days a more detailed explanation as to why the proposals presented to the Negotiating Committee have been unacceptable.”
It’s been 5 days, I’m tired of the silence man, they’ve done a **** poor job at communicating anything and wIll just turn the pilot group against them.
06-12-2019, 10:54 AM
#597
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
Whatever happened to this?
“in the coming days a more detailed explanation as to why the proposals presented to the Negotiating Committee have been unacceptable.”
It’s been 5 days, I’m tired of the silence man, they’ve done a **** poor job at communicating anything and wIll just turn the pilot group against them.
“in the coming days a more detailed explanation as to why the proposals presented to the Negotiating Committee have been unacceptable.”
It’s been 5 days, I’m tired of the silence man, they’ve done a **** poor job at communicating anything and wIll just turn the pilot group against them.
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